How Small Shifts Can Change Your Life In Big Ways With Anthony Trucks

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Kim Gravel: Coming up on The Kim Gravel Show.

Anthony Trucks: I think a lot of us, sometimes we don't fall in love with the right thing. The achievement we're talking about, right? We love the achievement, the peak of the mountains. And it'd be so amazing. If you think about people who are climbing mountains, how much time did they spend on the peak versus the climb?

Opening Introduction: Let's just go on and spill the tea. This is The Kim Gravel Show. This is one of the realest persons I've ever met in my darn life. You gotta watch this. My mission is to encourage every single woman, we're here to lift y'all up. There's no one more effective than moms. You mess with the bull. You going to get the horns. I need coffee. I need Jesus and I need therapy. If you can bring a smile to people's faces, why would you not? We love our kids. We love our husbands. What a blessing. We're gonna dedicate this to you in finding your superpower. Okay girl. True confidence is knowing who you are and why you're here.

Kim Gravel: Hey y'all, this is The Kim Gravel Show. And this season we are leveling up your life and we're stepping in to your purpose. And we're going to do that together. Today is a day to really level up Zac. I mean, we have one of my new favorite people, I say this a lot about this gentleman, Anthony Trucks, former NFL player.

His mission is really to teach others how to make that shift, make shift happen in your life. Zac, you're going to be just, your, your socks are going to be blessed off by this guy.

Zac Miller: I think I just love makeshift happened so much.

Kim Gravel: You love it because it's almost inappropriate.

Zac Miller: It's almost inappropriate, but it is ready for

Kim Gravel: like saying a cussword and getting away with it.

Zac Miller: Right? Yeah, but no, for me, it's funny because I think that athletes in particular have this mindset that when they're able to be really articulate what makes them like. Not everyone, obviously, not everyone can get to the level of being in the NFL. You have to have something about you to even get to that level.

And I think when you find someone who's able to really like lay that out and lay that bare, you know, and, and then take it 10 steps further, which Anthony seems like he has, I'm really excited to meet

Kim Gravel: him. You're going to love him. He's got a word for all of us. The whole season of this season of Kim Gravel Show is to really help people see a different path for themselves, a purpose for themselves, a new leash on life.

 That's why I wrote the book, Collecting Confidence, because I want people to really step in to their calling in life. And Anthony really can give you some practical ways to do that. So when we come back, we've got... Anthony, who is going to show us how to make shift happen right after this.

I just want to say a big thank you to everybody who's reached out to me about, the book Collecting Confidence. My new book that is just been such a blessing to hear from you. It's been a bestseller and it's, and more importantly, it's the messages I'm getting that has touched your life is really.

you have no idea that is true success to me. If you've taken anything, any nugget, any truth out of that book and applied it and, and related to it in your own life, I say, thank you. Zac, it's just been so amazing to hear people say to me, Kim, this book touched me. That's why I did it is that I want everyone to walk in their collected confidence so you can start where you are and become everything you're meant to be.

It doesn't matter your age, doesn't matter, what you look like, where you come from. Confidence is right there for you and can be everything, help you be everything you're meant to be. Thank y'all. I love you. All right, everybody. I have got a guest on today. He's probably one of my new favorite people.

He's a new friend I was on his podcast promoting my new book Collecting Confidence, and I just think he is the coolest It's Anthony Trucks. He's a former NFL athlete who lost his career to a shoulder injury. Three time American Ninja Warrior on NBC. Okay, well, I'm already exhausted just reading those two things.

International speaker. He's, the host of the All Shift podcast. I love, he talks about identity shift and how to upgrade. How you operate to elevate your life founder of identity shift coaching and his life mission is to teach others how to make shift happen. Y'all welcome Anthony trucks to The Kim Gravel Show.

Anthony Trucks: That's cool. Who did that? I like that. I gotta get one of those things done. I want my wife to hit that. So when I walk in the room.

Kim Gravel: Anthony, you're one of my new favorite people. Did you know that I'm about to tell you why you are, you are too cool for school. But honestly, after starting following you and talking with you and just watching what you're doing with your career, which is on the rise, you've got a fantastic story. I had no idea.

The things that you had been through, I mean, you've been in the foster care system, adopted at 14. you had such a blessed career to go in the NFL and then had this shoulder and this random shoulder injury. I mean, you've got to just start by telling the audience who you are, your background a little bit before we get into making shift happen.

Anthony Trucks: We'll give the reader's digest for those who know what that is.

Kim Gravel: Do it, do it, because I'm just fascinated. I'm fascinated.

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, So I'm a man of, I'm a man of God. I'm a husband, I'm a father. I am a coach, a speaker, a teacher, all that kind of fun stuff. But it comes from a life where I believe, I think it's about humanity.

You shouldn't be telling people how to run the race until you've crossed some finish lines. Come on. So in life, I find that I've crossed some finish lines I choose to now talk about. I went through it up and down in my marriage, but it all goes back to me being a kid, three years old, given away into the foster care system.

Like you'd mentioned, adopted at 14 after 11 years in the system by an all white family, very poor. So had a lot of weird dynamics of who am I, where I fit and how do I exist? Because I think we all as human beings have those questions either consciously or subconsciously. They drive our actions. And then I wanted to be something.

I didn't want to be another statistic of foster care. We don't graduate from college. A lot of us end up homeless. And so I just, I beat some odds. I had like a lot of great love in my life. And I ended up becoming this person that tried this action towards a game. I wasn't good at in the beginning, but I learned how to get good, which was football.

I loved hitting people, not getting in trouble. I'm not going to say that wasn't a fun part of it.

Kim Gravel: Oh, that sounds like something I'd like to do. Yes. All right.

Zac Miller: I'm glad that I'm not in Atlanta. All right.

Anthony Trucks: I find people all the time at gas stations and on the street. I have, I have found myself having to talk myself out of throwing quarters out of my windows lately because people would cut me off like crazy men.

Kim Gravel: Real talk, real talk.

Anthony Trucks: Real talk. One time I was like, I was someone cut me off bad. And like, I couldn't turn off the lizard brain and I started reaching for, for like the chain. My wife had to grab my hand and pull it out of the chain. You know?

Kim Gravel: Yeah, but everybody can relate to that, Anthony. Everybody listening is like,

Anthony Trucks: I mean, I'm not really going to do it, but I want to, I wanted to think I am, you know, I wanted to at least be worried about. So no, I got a, got a chance to play football in high school. Got really good. Got a college scholarship. And played at the division one level of University of Oregon, did my thing, had a kid 20 years old, had my, met my father at 20 years old, my biological dad for the first time, and then from there progressed on to, to marry my high school sweetheart, play in the NFL, lose my career, like you mentioned, came home, had two more kids, lost my complete sense of identity, didn't know who I was without the game of football, blew my life up, got divorced because wife had an affair and all went psycho and sideways.

And then fast forward three years. I had a lot of darkness. I called the dark times and I did what I call is dark work to figure out who I was to elevate my identity to a man that I could be proud of that would want my kids to be like my daughter to marry a man like me someday kind of and so it allowed me to then cross some finish lines.

And so I learned that over over the years of my life. I'd always navigated. These windows of time to progress. And I call it the dark work you do. So you can shine a light that the light is the shift of your identity. And so that's where I've come to. Now I'm coming to the point where I've gone through some, some craziness.

I've actually since remarried my ex wife. We have an amazing marriage. We're about almost seven years deep in the remarriage and it's a beautiful life. So no complaints for me at this point in life. I've. I got a lot of peace because I had a lot of hardship.

Kim Gravel: You talk about this dark work. What does that mean?

I think I know what it means, but what do you mean by doing the dark work?

Anthony Trucks: So the dark work, there's a concept called shadow work and shadow work is, is the work you do to figure out what's going on in the shadows that you don't see. And it's responsible for the life you do see. So maybe you just, you don't realize that you keep dating the same guy with a different name, you know, or you keep getting the same job that you hate.

Like these things happen. You go, why is it going on? Well, shadow work uncovers it. The dark work is what you do now that you know. Ooh, that's for a lot of people because they'll know about it, but we don't do that stuff. But where I've, I deposit, I call it dark work, deposit the daily work I do in the direction of my dream.

Because when you get to the point of having this dream later on, for me, I tied to identity with this concept. You can't have a dream above your current identity. How I, how I see myself currently. We'll lead to actions. I take and the actions create the outcome. If I don't identify with the actions to have that dream, I don't do them.

I don't have it. So the dark work is the actions you do to eventually become that. So you can have the dream, the house, the car, the joy, the peace, the whatever you want. And so the dark work, it allows you to have this ability to what I say is shine the light later on.

Kim Gravel: Where do you find the motivation? I cause I totally a thousand percent agree with everything you're saying.

Where do we find the motivation in those times? In those dark times, how, because that seems to be like a reoccurring thing, not only in my own life, but for so many people I talk to, how do I get motivated to change the actions, Anthony?

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, well, it's interesting thing. I think there's two ways you push, you pull, right?

The, the pushing is kind of the thing where I go, all right, if I look at the life I'm living. Like when I was 15, I did dark work back then because like, I want to be a great football player because it also allows you to have this sense of, I call it dark work mentality. It's tied to a dominant identity, which is I've done too much work in the dark to lose in the light.

Kim Gravel: Come on with it. You need to say that again. You need to repeat that.

Anthony Trucks: Back of my shirt. I can turn around and show it to you. It says work in the dark to lose in the light. Yes. it's, it's a guttural mentality that I need you to have in a moment that will define your life. Thank you. But you build that, right?

And so for me, I look at different parts of my life where I've, I've gone back and I've done that. And so the motivation comes from one of two places. For me, it comes from one place, which is I don't want to go where the end of this road I'm on is headed. No matter what it is, how it's going, I can look at my life and go, if I extrapolate this, the place I land, I don't want to be there.

So you know what? I don't know for sure that if I go somewhere else, it's going to be great, but I do know I don't want to go where this is going. So when I was a kid. People go, well, how'd you believe you're going to be great at football and play in the NFL one day and start doing this work and I go, oh, you got to misconstrued.

I didn't believe that at all. They go, well, why did you get started? I go, I just believe that the place I was headed, I didn't want to go. It was the first part of the motivation. I don't want to get stuck in this place. The second part goes, can I craft a dream that is one inch out of control?

Kim Gravel: Come on. What answers a little scare you to death that I know it should be just like.

Anthony Trucks: That little, just make that that butt pucker a little bit. Just a little bit of like hope, you know, . But the idea was, I guess for me, when I look at all these things, like there's a place where I go, I want to have this idea that is one inch outta I control. Meaning if it's just the level where I go, I can do that.

It doesn't excite us sometimes. Right? But if it's one inch, which goes, you know what? I don't, I don't know for sure, but like, it's so close. It could be possible. Right. And so I like to set dreams at like that one inch out of the normal, not 17 yards, right? That single inch. And then what happens, I get a little bit of excitement.

Like, man, it's close enough to touch, but it's just still like, I don't quite know. And then what happens is you start putting yourself in the direction to do those things and you start finding, Oh wow, I set it for an inch, but I could actually go 17 yards, but you wouldn't have gone to a path in the first place if you didn't get started.

So motivation for me comes from that. And then here's one key that I want people to grasp. Okay. You do not identify with the outcomes. People all the time that they want to, I go, can I, am I the person that does this? And if you, if you compare yourself to the outcome in the beginning of the journey, you will never have the, the joy or even think you can do it because you're always comparing going, I suck at this.

So I recommend you literally identify with the efforts. Am I the person that gives the efforts in the direction because if I can say, you know what, I am the kind of person that gives the effort within someday I can do this thing, whatever it is, I want to, I want to fly a plane. There's a little airport nearby.

Go. Why not? Right. I've never flown in a plane besides one. Somebody else. I've never done that. But I go, well, someone else can do it's one inch out of control, but I go, well, what does it look like to take the steps? First thing is take an opening flight, you get in the cockpit, you do it next day. I know I'm like, oh, I can do this.

And it's just taking that next little step. And for me, all I want to do is identify with the effort of showing up, doing the stuff. And if you can just do that, I can go, you know what, I'm not an amazing pilot now, but I did the efforts that are necessary for me today. The more you do it, the more you get that positive feel.

And then all of a sudden you're flying, right? That's going to be the journey that I'll be moving on. But that's the same for everybody's journey for life.

Kim Gravel: You know, it sounds like you're like saying like, build that faith muscle to take that one step. Push yourself a little bit and where does accomplishment come into all of that?

Because I truly believe as we're taking those steps and we're making those little accomplishments that gives us confidence. And is that what you're talking about?

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, yeah, that's part of it for sure. it's kind of wrapped up in two pieces because one of it is I need to take unconfident action to create confidence.

You do have to do things because it gives you the feedback that tells you whether you should or shouldn't be confident is every single action going to be great. Absolutely not. But a collection of them in the direction of something that you want to do statistically by the sheer law of average will give you some positives.

You're gonna go, okay, I'm gonna have some wins. I develop little by little the confidence there, right? And so that she, but makes me feel better. But I also think there's A way that I look at, I'm a very metaphorical human. I think I'm like pictures and stuff and I go, I think a lot of us, sometimes we don't fall in love with the right thing, the achievement we're talking about, right?

We love the achievement, the peak of the mountains, and it'd be so amazing if you think about people who are climbing mountains, how much time do they spend on the peak versus the climb? Vastly more on the climb. And so for me, I go, well, if I can just fall in love with the day, not just the destination, well, then I'll actually have a lot more peace, a lot more joy in the journey.

Kim Gravel: How do you do that though, Anthony?

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, you find the monotony and you find the nuance within it that gives you joy. Here's an example. My wife owns properties for our businesses we have nearby. And so if one's for like some of her work for her company, she owns. I'm the handyman. I go fix things.

I grew up really poor. So you can't go call somebody better figure it yourself. So I got to work at yourself. You'd be surprised at the things I can fix. And I can put a car stereo in your car right now. Like, I'm, I'm, I love it. They're TV screen. Anyway. So, I learned that for me, like, I don't like to break my day because I'm a speaker.

I'm a coach. I work with companies like Amazon and PayPal, like I'm working. So to go and do like that work, it's like, I don't want to, but, but I'm her husband, right? So I go, okay, I'm going to go do this. And I go, I don't want to go do it. But what I try to find out is like, Hey, what within this can I enjoy?

And I finally, you know what, I love my wife. I get to talk to her the whole right end of the conversation. Or I go, you know what? I got to go and like fix this fence. What can I do? It's an album I found. I wanted to listen to this album. Let's let's play. Let me listen to this album. Right. I find joy in the music.

So I actively am seeking to find the thing that I can have joy within the thing I don't enjoy. The brain will find what you set it towards. If you find and seek to find all why you don't want to do it, it's going to suck. Yeah, you'll find that 100%. No problem. But if you set the brain to go find something positive, you'll find it.

It's a little nuances like that. They give me a way to fall in love with this day, and I know that that day leads me to a destination of a great marriage, of a sound household, of a better business for her, right? Those, those are the things of the destinations that we're loving the day every day.

Kim Gravel: Well, you talk about making shift happen.

 When you say shift, are you, are you thinking mindset? What, what shift are you talking about?

Anthony Trucks: Identity shift. But the shift is also, if you remove the F, that's what it is. Like, I want you to do that. All right. Like, I'm trying to get some, it's like the moment where like you all of a sudden have this overwhelming, like welling up of joy.

Like it's just got to come out.

Kim Gravel: Don't, don't we want that?

Anthony Trucks: We all want that. So you want to have that moment happen. You have to do things differently. You have to shift your identity. And so. For me, I look at our, I'm not talking about change who you are. I don't need to wake up tomorrow and all of a sudden start wearing like, you know, hats and glasses and wearing different shoes.

Like you don't got to be a whole new human and start dancing. Right. However, you can make small shifts. Maybe you wake up in the morning and make a small shift to your morning routine. You make a small shift to your optimism. Maybe before you go into work in a place, you don't want to work. You tell yourself, you know what?

Today, I'm going to, I'm going to identify with three words, joy, communication, and, and happiness, right? What I'm going to say that you say it to yourself, these small little shifts, well, you step into new experiences of life and they teach you something different because you're seeing it and feeling it and your whole framing is actually different.

And that's really what an identity shift is over time. The way that I look at it is, the thing about identity, let's take it back from this philosophical, right? At a neurological and psychological level, we are wired. If me and you had an experience in life and something wired us, right? Maybe a dog bit you and didn't bite me.

If you see a dog. You have a wiring for like, Oh my gosh, a dog, right? I want to get away and someone else might go, Oh, sweet, a dog, right? Well, that wiring is what allows you to take actions. That's creating your life. And the only way we got there was because of an experience. So what I go is, well, if I want to be someone different, different identity, differently, you know, it shines differently in the light.

I must have different experiences. And we only do them one of two ways, on demand or when crap hits the fan. And most of the time, people wait until the cat gets the fan, like, I got bills to pay and my wife's leaving me, like, now you change? You couldn't do it before?

Kim Gravel: You got, you got, you got to pick it up.

Yeah, you got to pick up the pace. Yep.

Anthony Trucks: So I say, do it on demand. Make some choices and step into, like I just said, take these small shifts. Step into your life intentionally, do something a little bit that's different, right? But the more you do it, you get a new experience. All of a sudden, Bob and accounting likes you because you're being nice to Bob.

And then Bob recommends you for something else. And oh my gosh, now you're having a new career, a new job, and you have new experiences. And if you go, gosh, I am awesome. I am better than I, than I thought I was two years ago, three years ago. But you had to do those little shifts in the beginning to wire yourself to the experiences.

Kim Gravel: Well, and I think everything starts with an intention when you said that word earlier, it triggered something in my head because it's the why we're doing things that are so important. How much about how much of this is about setting that intention? Because, you know, just because like, even like weight loss, Anthony, like I want to lose weight.

Well, that's not necessarily an intention, right? You know, I'm like, it doesn't motivate me to get up and like, put down the ice cream or get, you know, put my running shoes on and go walk a brisk walk. How can we better set our intentions?

Anthony Trucks: So I look at it. So if I was to leave my home right now and I was going to wherever you're at, right.

There's, there's something I would not do. I would not type in the city. I wouldn't go. Okay. I wanna go, I want, I don't know. Where you at? Where's, where's the city area?

Kim Gravel: I'm in Bethlehem, Georgia. Honey, Bethlehem, Georgia.

Anthony Trucks: I was actually gonna, I was gonna say Georgia of all places. I was, I was close to it, so I'm not too far up the accent.

You're close, right?

Kim Gravel: What, I have an accent? I didn't know what you're talking about.

Anthony Trucks: Little bit. Little bit on there. So if If I was to go to Georgia, I wouldn't type in city, right? If I want to go to your specific space, your student, I don't put the city in because if I just put the city, I go, I have no idea.

She's going to be there. I'm not leaving the house. All right. But if I had the address, the precise location, I'm gonna hit it in. It's going to give me that. Let's go. So a lot of people have this. This idea of like their goal is more of a city as composed, like a prepared, like a, an address, right? So what If I say I want to lose weight, I can't connect my brain palpably to it.

I can't connect it to the emotional. So I don't want those subconscious drivings. Like, think about when you want like the new pair of shoes or you want like the new bag, you know what the bag looks like, the color of it, what it feels, you've

Kim Gravel: The name of it, how much it costs.

Anthony Trucks: Your brain connects to it.

If you go, I want a new bag. It's like, I don't know what bag. So I'm not going to sacrifice for it, work for it. I don't even desire it that much, but if you know what it is, a precision, the brain connects. And so for me, I go, a lot of people, like you're saying, you can't just say, I want to lose weight. No, I want to lose 15 pounds because at 15 pounds or this inches, I can get to this dress.

This is how I look. This is how I feel, right? Those are the connection points. Our brain doesn't get an opportunity to get. If you don't clarify with clear intention, what you want.

Kim Gravel: Now, can this shift work for anybody? I mean, like, can anybody do this? Because a lot of people are going, well, you've you're so disciplined and you're so, you know, Anthony, you're so handsome and you're so charismatic.

And, you know, of course it works for you. Former NFL player. What do you say? Just the average person out here, you know, that's looking for a change.

Anthony Trucks: Well, it only works for people that are people only work with it. It hurts everybody with it. Every human being, here's why I was the kid who at six years old was, was very shut down.

I didn't, no one, no one loved me to an extent, like I was beaten by families and tortured and starved by families. I had to develop every part of me from being a guy that, that started way behind the line for most people. And the realistic point of it is the way that our psychology, our brains, our body, everything works is all based on little actions that you take.

And so what's cool about it is absolutely any human being can create this for themselves. I had a client literally before this call, I'm not even making this up, it's a Sarah, that's why I was smiling when you said that, she goes, I'm not as disciplined and consistent as you. And I go, well, unless you make the commitment to doing something to be disciplined too, you don't get to become disciplined.

Right. So that's all I did. I just, I said, here's the thing I want to do. Like for me, we're talking about a daily podcast. I do, I do a daily one, seven minutes and I'm consistent. I'm at 655 straight episodes. She goes, I'm not consistent and disciplined. I go, I don't think you get it. I'm not consistent and disciplined until I gave myself something to be consistent and disciplined towards.

That makes so much sense. Right? And so everybody can get there. It's just a matter of what do you want to do? And it's the, it's the falling in love with the days that get there. At one point I posted episode one. Now I'm at 655. I didn't do anything but just fall in love with posting every day and making this little statement and talking on the camera and that's it.

And it flows into something else. I didn't, I didn't start this way. Nobody does. And you build into it. So that's actually. It should give people hope more than it gives them this feeling of like, I can't do it. If you could, if you, if you start out by identifying with the outcome, me, if you identify with 655 episodes, you shoot yourself in the foot.

You're never gonna get started, right? But if you identify with the efforts, you'll get to the point of being at 655 one day. And being the person that's consistent and disciplined and does it and everybody look at you and go. It's magic. No, it's not. It's just the thing they did way. Explain it. No, I'll stop talking.

So much is.

Kim Gravel: No. Talk. That's why you're on here. I want you to talk to our people.

Anthony Trucks: I find that a lot of individuals they identify with trying to go big. I want to go big and I go, big. You know, what do you mean? I said, I want to go real small, but I want to go small in a really big way. If I can do that, I'll change the world.

Kim Gravel: Doing all this in, in the hustle culture, because the hustle culture I'm not into, it, it wore me out for years when I stopped hustling and started being more purposeful with what I wanted to accomplish and be in my life. Can hustle culture be a negative thing you think?

Anthony Trucks: It can if it's, if it's viewed in proper, here's the, here's why the hustle language I think ties to you pushing against the grain towards something that it doesn't light you up, right?

There are things that I do that in me doing them, they are like effortless effort. I mean, it's easy for me to do. I love doing it, right?

Kim Gravel: I get you, man. I swear.

Anthony Trucks: And on the other side, that exact same thing for somebody else becomes this grit and grind. And so for me, I've found that if, if, if you take it all back and go hustle culture, no people, you have to essentially work, right?

You have to work, but when you put the hustle on, it's like, I'm getting down, grit and grind. There's a part of that. But if that at some point doesn't become a thing where you do it easily without even thinking about it, you don't actually have the result. And if you do, you don't enjoy it and you eventually stop doing it.

So, when I look at the hustle culture, you have to decide, what do I want to put my energy towards? And then what am I, what am I going to look at years from now to stop and go? Do I love doing this because if you don't love doing it and you're still doing it, it's just as hard as day one, I would recommend not doing it because you're, it's not helping you move something forward, but like for me with my podcast, I love doing my podcast.

I'm at 655. I want to get to 6000 one day, right?

Kim Gravel: That's crazy because you know, most people don't even get to 10 average people don't even get to 10 episodes of any podcast and you're at 600.

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, I love it. I love doing it. That's a thing. So for me, it's not a hustle. There's this, there's certain things in our lives that all of us love to do.

People are like, how, my sister, my family, we're all very active. We're athletes. We do stuff. My sister goes, how in the hell do you guys go to a, a track and go do running? And that's your, that's your fun. I go, Oh, this is what we do, right? For some people, the idea of that is crazy. I don't, they want to throw up at the idea of, and we go, we can't wait to go do it.

Right. It's all perspective and what we find joy within. So yes, the hustle culture can be negative. If you still feel a year from now, like you're hustling, but if you've done the hustles turn to effortless effort, the beautiful thing for you.

Kim Gravel: I love that effortless effort. Okay, so, Anthony, you have to come back 1, but 2, I close every podcast the same way with rapid fire questions.

Just rando questions. I'm going to ask you. Just first thing comes to your mind. Okay. Here we go. If you could sit next to anyone on a plane, who would it be? And why?

Anthony Trucks: Future me. I want to know if I did it right.

Kim Gravel: I love that. Why do you, why, why would it be future you?

Anthony Trucks: Well, cause everybody else is crazy, man. I don't know. You know why I know my truth. I don't even know my wife's brain. Like my wife will say things. I'm like that, that came in your mouth just now. Right. So you can ask questions of anybody, but I don't know the full framing, but future aunt has experienced things and seen things, and we can talk at a level of understanding, so I'd love to know what he thinks because I actually trust his mind.

Kim Gravel: Oh, I'm Anthony where you're going to be your future self. You need to hang on. To your bootstraps, my friend, because you're going to take off in a big way. God's got big things. Okay, I'm going to go keep going. If your house was on fire, what one thing would you grab out of it?

Anthony Trucks: Is it people or objects?

Kim Gravel: Anything. No, let's not say, let's just say objects. People, that's, that's for sure. You got to grab people and pets.

Anthony Trucks: I would take my laptop because my laptop is my life. That thing, it's

Kim Gravel: your laptop probably has your whole life on it.

Anthony Trucks: The whole world's digital. The whole world, everything else can burn, but my laptop can go and log in and buy it again.

Kim Gravel: There you go. There you go. Okay. What is the best place you've ever visited?

Anthony Trucks: Ooh, I thoroughly enjoyed Costa Rica. It was a fun, like, we're like, you can like wear a new shirt, and just walk around sweaty.

Kim Gravel: Have you ever been to Turks and Caicos?

Anthony Trucks: I have. I've been there one time. It's beautiful. This is more of a touristy place. Whereas Costa Rica was just like Costa Rica is kind of like a, yeah, it's like you're hanging out at their house. It's like, you know, it's their beach and you're just there. I love it.

Kim Gravel: What do you, what do you spend too much time thinking about?

Anthony Trucks: Ooh. I don't want to say business because it's kind of what it is, but I do spend time thinking about the people that I impact with my business. That makes sense. That's nice. So like, What, what their questions are, the thoughts are, the, the things are consuming. Cause I definitely want to make sure what I put into the world they enjoy.

So I probably spend more than enough time speaking and thinking about them.

Kim Gravel: What is one thing you want to want to try that you have not yet?

Anthony Trucks: What have I not done. Skydiving? My wife doesn't want me to die though. So she won't let me do it.

Kim Gravel: You're like the third dude that has said skydiving.

Anthony Trucks: I've always wanted to.

I might wait till my boys turn 18 and then rock with them and go like all three of us because I'm gonna get one shot at it.

Kim Gravel: How old are your boys? Out of curiosity.

Anthony Trucks: He's already 18. My twins, they're both 13. So I got like five more years till my youngest becomes of age to go jump out of a plane.

Kim Gravel: We're both in the same throes of teenage boys.

I love it. If you could go back to the NFL tomorrow, Anthony, would you go?

Anthony Trucks: No. You think about it, the NFL, what it does, it kept me away from my family. My family's in California. I was in Pennsylvania, right? So the lives were separate from my experience of it all. Two, it's a situation where. My body, like my physical body is not what it could be and should be because of that game.

And then third,

Kim Gravel: I've heard a lot of people say that,

Anthony Trucks: yeah, and I'm not that I'm against them. My body still feels pretty good, but it's a little nagging things and knees and hamstrings and shoulders. It just all sucks. Right. So the body and it's funny, the brain part of it doesn't even bother me that much.

My brain's pretty good, but I think the biggest part for me was the fact that I can make great money that makes my life amazing doing what I'm doing. But, but I get to do it in a way where the world knows who I am. You're behind a helmet, but the second you're done, like nobody cares who you are anymore.

It's just a weird world. So yeah, I love, I love playing the game. I still run around and play catch my son and do flag football stuff as a grown adult, you know, doing my old man thing. But to go back to NFL, it's a, we'll call it a career. I don't aspire to have anymore.

Kim Gravel: That is not your identity. Okay.

Favorite junk food.

Anthony Trucks: Ooh, Lay's Classic Potato Chips.

Kim Gravel: Oh, they're so good, right?

Anthony Trucks: Yeah, just the saltiness.

Kim Gravel: Dang! And they're so super thin!

Anthony Trucks: Their close second is the, the Honey Barbecue Twist, the Frito ones. Those are the close seconds.

Kim Gravel: Oh, I haven't tried those. I'm gonna have to go get me some of those.

Anthony Trucks: Don't get the ruffle. Like, the ruffle has this weird twist. It's disgusting. It's got to be Frito.

Kim Gravel: I love it. Listen, listen, I'm telling you, we could be close like brother and sister talking about these snack foods. Okay, here we go.

Anthony Trucks: Who is your celebrity crush? Oh, so it's, I think back in the day it was Jessica Alba.

I don't know what it was. Jessica Alba. But I think I think recently, and I don't know, recently it changed. It is, Scarlett Johansson. She's a banger. She's pretty dope.

Kim Gravel: You can't, you can't, you can't deny that. You can't deny that. Those are two good ones.

You got good taste. Okay, last question. Best advice you have ever received.

Anthony Trucks: Ooh, it takes a little more to be a champion. That was it. It was, Dom Pelham, Dom Papa. He's my, my college coach, but it's always this mentality of like, you're doing your thing and you reach the outskirts of your capabilities right now.

And the champions are ones that reach that and they reach for more. Every single day. It's that you will outpace them. So you'll keep on moving when you reach their level and go beyond. So whether it's a champion in your marriage, a champion in your health, a champion as a parent, it's that little bit more that you don't want to do or feel comfortable doing. You just force yourself to do it and you step and level yourself up in time.

Kim Gravel: I got to tell you, Anthony, there's so much more coming for you. You are going to be a massive thought leader in this world. Your story, your confidence, your, your content, everything about it is just so good. Just be blessed and just know God's got huge, huge things for you. I mean, I don't know if you even want to hear that, but trust me as I've, as a woman, who's been around a block of time or two, it's fresh, dude.

Very fresh.

Anthony Trucks: Thank you. I appreciate it.

Kim Gravel: You got to come back and be on.

Anthony Trucks: Count me in. Anytime. Let me know.

Kim Gravel: All right. All right. Y'all check Anthony out everywhere, on social media, Anthony, it's Anthony trucks, right?

Anthony Trucks: Yep, Aww Shift the podcast. Aww Shift.

Kim Gravel: Check it out. We're going to put all that here, but I'm telling you right now, Anthony.

You're one of my new favorite people out there. I appreciate that. Thank you. You're bringing the heat. I love it. All right. We'll see you soon.

What does that tell you? Right.

Zac Miller: I'm super impressed with Anthony. Like

Kim Gravel: I love him. He's one of my new favorite people.

Zac Miller: Everything he said resonated with me. Every single thing. He said, and started making me think about my own life. And I know if I'm thinking, if I'm sitting here thinking about myself and I'm like, Oh, wait, I'm on the podcast.

Oh, I have to like, you know, that's actually

Kim Gravel: like working. Oh, I'm working right now. Oh my gosh. I'm not just watching TV. I, you know, I get into a boat where I'm like, Oh, I'm just watching TV, but I'm not.

But I love how, I mean, his story is so amazing and how, I mean, can you imagine being in foster care at three years old and finally adopted at 14 and all the things he had to endure?

And it could have gone south. It could have really gone in a bad direction, but Anthony has chosen to create the life he has. And I love how he says, if I can do it, you can do it too. Basically, it's just making a decision in and doing it in those small steps, you know, just that. One bit of effort at a time.

He's dead on about everything. He's saying big things for him. Y'all go check out his podcast, and, and connect with Anthony. Even if you need a little encouragement or a little direction or a little coaching, he is there. And just remember, you know, that shift, that identity shift and really seeing who God created you to be.

That is the most important thing. His website is anthonytrucks.com. His social media is, @anthonytrucks on social media and listen to the podcast. Aww Shift Podcast. Check him out. He's one of my new favorite people. All right, y'all make sure you tell everybody about The Kim Gravel Show. We've always got interesting guests and fun things to talk about, and we're always here to help you level up your life till next time.

We love you. Bye. We nailed today.

Zac Miller: We did.

Kim Gravel: We got it. If I do say so myself. Well, we're not there yet. We're not there yet. Don't say that. We almost there.

Zac Miller: Look, I'm a big proponent of not jinxing things, okay? I swear, are you enjoying this? Don't

Kim Gravel: you know, I believe, yes,

Zac Miller: as soon as I say the thing is good, that's when your camera cuts out or the ghost comes back, shut up, they'll say,

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