Women's Wellness Wake-Up Call with Lo Bosworth

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Lo Bosworth:

And it was at that time that I started to experience a lot of symptoms of being quite unwell in my body. A lot of depression, anxiety, a lot of intimate health issues. And it took me 18 months of self advocacy going to the doctor over and over and over again for them to finally just say, okay, we'll run a blood panel and let's take a look under the hood.

Kim:

Here we go. Lo Bosworth is on the show today. There's so much to talk about. First of all, she's getting ready to be QVC's sister. Okay. She's coming to the queue. But also she was on the Hills. Y'all, please welcome.

Kim:

Uh huh.

Lo Bosworth:

Oh, my goodness.

Kim:

That is so fun. You need that as your ringtone.

Lo Bosworth:

I do. Thank you for having me. I am so excited to be here. We were just talking about how good everyone's lighting looks before we started recording. Kim, you are a vision. You're a vision.

Kim:

Listen, you know what I told you earlier? I love when I get a compliment like that at my age. I'm like, excuse me, I can't hear you. Because I like it repeated.

Lo Bosworth:

You're a vision over there.

Kim:

That's why I love your brand, this Love Wellness, because I love all the love I can get. And honey, I'm trying to stay well at 53. And you know, your brand is on fire. And I'm so happy about it because you took your fame. Can I call it fame? Are you okay with saying that? Okay. Because you were on the hills, very popular, one of the sane ones that were on there. And you have to. We'll talk about that in a second.

Kim:

And you took it and really used your platform for something that I think is. Is what every woman wants to discuss. I mean, you talk about vaginas, which I don't really want to talk that much about. A vagina. My vagina.

Lo Bosworth:

You don't have to.

Kim:

We can talk about. It's been through the mill.

Lo Bosworth:

We could talk about it as much as you want. That's the good thing about Love Wellness. We have created a company and a platform and a community where we meet you, where you're at. Yes, I'll talk about it all day long because it's my job. But however you much want to talk about it, we're good with that.

Kim:

Well, let me ask you something. Why did you create this? Because it's not just a brand, it's a community. Like you said, it's a movement. What happened to you that. I mean, because you're young.

Lo Bosworth:

I'll be 39 this year. I cannot believe it. I know you don't.

Kim:

I'm 39. Oh my God. When were you on the Hills? What year was it?

Lo Bosworth:

Before the Hills was Laguna beach. And that started in 2004. 4. And then the hills was 2006 ish to 2012. 13. If I, if my memory serves me correct. I moved to New York after I was on the Hills and I'm a California native. I've seen all the fires in LA right now.

Kim:

Girl. I was just, we were talking about it, I was like, prayers are going up.

Lo Bosworth:

It's.

Kim:

And they're going to need more prayers after that. We're going to have to rebuild.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah, but you know, I spent a significant period of my life living in LA on Hills, you know, after I graduated from ucla. But after that show, I think I needed a change. And I was always a fan of New York City growing up and would visit New York City with MTV when we would go and do trl. Total Request Live, if you remember that show.

Kim:

Okay.

Zach Miller:

With Carson Daleyza.

Lo Bosworth:

And so I got to know New York a little bit and I think I was kind of fleeing from my trauma of being on a reality television show because I'm serious. I feel like finally it's well known and accepted that being on reality TV can actually be traumatic for the people on that show.

Kim:

Oh, yeah.

Lo Bosworth:

And I sort of fled to New York and wanted to build a new life for myself. And I was always really focused on entrepreneurship and didn't quite know the space that I wanted to get into. And during that time I was going to culinary school. So after ucla, I went to the French Culinary Institute and got a culinary degree. The focus on farm to table food and plain eating, which was a really, really cool experience. And it was at that time that I started to experience a lot of symptoms of being quite unwell in my body. A lot of depression, anxiety, a lot of intimate health issues. And it took me 18 months of self advocacy going to the doctor over and over and over again for them to finally just say, okay, we'll run a blood panel and let's take a look under the hood.

Lo Bosworth:

18 months. And what came back on that blood panel was that I had small, severe vitamin deficiencies. Yeah, vitamin E and vitamin D. 95% of Americans have a vitamin D deficiency. And it was through this experience I was at the drugstore constantly, I was at the doctors constantly. And I really realized that there was quite a gap when it came to women's health and wellness products. And that everything on the Shelf had been there for a really long time without any innovation, commercialization. And a lot of what was there had been made without any research behind it, simply due to the lack of research on women's bodies.

Lo Bosworth:

And that was a pretty big wake up call for me. And I decided to just jump in head first with what I had learned about nutrition and what I was personally dealing with to build love wellness. And we focus on vaginal health, gut health, and hormonal health because we know that those three parts of the system in women's bodies are connected. One of the first brands to acknowledge that connection. And we decided to build products based off of that connection and supporting that connection. And so we're really one of a kind brand in the space. And we were very early in women's wellness to start to think about how to really be game changing and to use actual emerging research and an incredible medical advisory board to create products that meet women. Where we are at.

Kim:

Where are we at though? Lo? Like, where are we at? I mean. Cause it's one of those things where we're underserved. We're underserved, but they want our money, they want our buyership. They want our consumership. But where are women really at? I can only speak for myself. You know, I'm at a place where I have two teenage boys. I'm not only physically but mentally exhausted. I can tell you my digestion, you know, by the way I use the restroom.

Kim:

I can tell that's screwed up. I can also tell you the diet I'm on is not what it needs to be. I'm just saying I'm gonna be this person for you low, where I'm gonna be like, tell me why I need this information. Because we are bombarded with everything. Because people, you know, companies, businesses, brands, they want our money, of course. But what is going on with women's health? I mean. Cause I know my hormones are jacked. I don't take any hormones.

Kim:

I'm 53, I'm post menopausal. I have not had a cycle in years. I know that's overshare, but hey, I feel like we're close. And I'm to the point where I'm afraid to just step into the hormonal pool because you hear bad things about it. My mom never took hormones. She was mean as a snake for 15 years. So, I mean, obviously a little cream or something would have done her good. And so I'm at that point now.

Kim:

I'm like, what do I need? What are these health scams? That we need to avoid in 2025. Like how help me. I know the book is gonna help us, but in a nutshell where people are just listening to this podcast.

Lo Bosworth:

Yes.

Kim:

Tell me as a woman what we need to be doing. Give me some advice, give me some direction.

Lo Bosworth:

And thank you for bringing up scams. I just started a sub stack a few weeks ago and my most recent post was on the top seven wellness scams to avoid in 2025 really are very much like thinking along the same page. So here's how I think about the status quo. And where we're at is that most women grew up with not enough information or misinformation due to a lack of research and funding focused on our bodies versus men's bodies. And you can go to Google and look at all of that data and see then it the inequity when it comes to how much research and how much money is being invested into men versus women. So we have gotten here simply because as women, we are an underserved community and we have been left to dealt with our health issues on our own for the most part. And even when you go to the doctor, it can be really tough. Right.

Lo Bosworth:

Like I said, I had to go to the doctor over and over again for 18 months for them to just say, okay, like, we'll write you like a test for a simple blood panel. And I think when it comes to western medicine, doctors are very focused specifically on their practice because they are not necessarily taught to think about women's bodies in a holistic way. Right. But other cultures and other countries are focused on holistic medicine in a way that is different from us. So you kind of are coming into this landscape where there's a lack of research, but women have the Internet now, and they are able to communicate in a very loud way that we have wants and needs and desires and they're not being met. And so I think a lot of consumer brands, like, love wellness, but other brands in this space are understanding that there is not only a huge opportunity to meet women where they're at, but to actually make products that work for our bodies because our bodies are different from men's bodies. And I think that is a reality that, like, we know. Right?

Kim:

Yeah.

Lo Bosworth:

But that everyone needs to understand and acknowledge.

Kim:

Well, let me ask you this. A lot of. Because you say that, you know, you've said gut health. Gut health. Gut health. And I have heard that that's been kind of a buzzword out and so many people listening or like, get things, man. Gut health. Yeah.

Lo Bosworth:

I've heard it.

Kim:

I've heard it everywhere. Lo, I'm serious. How much of your mood, like our moodiness, who we are, how we feel, starts in our gut? Can you explain that?

Lo Bosworth:

Absolutely. So the gut microbiome. Well, first, let me explain the microbiome. The microbiome is trillions of cells of bacteria all hooked up in your body, and one of your biggest microbiomes lives in your gut. So your gut microbiome you can kind of think of as your master microbiome. And did you know that significant amount of hormones in the body are being created and regulated by the gut microbiome? And I talk about that in my book. The actual bacteria in your gut are saying, hey, liver, hey, thyroid. Like, make this hormone and send it to this place, place in the body.

Lo Bosworth:

And if your gut microbiome is not in good health, the creation and delivery of those hormones could be thrown off, which is fascinating to me. So there is that gut brain or gut hormonal connection, but there's also a gut vagina connection, and that is something that we talk about a lot at Love Wellness and focus on. So your gut bacteria actually communicate to the bacteria in your vagina. It's called quorum sensing. So the bacteria in your tummy text or call the bacteria in your vagina and say, hey, we are reproducing healthy here. We feel good, we look good, we're operating good. So down in the vagina, you should be doing the same or the inverse. If your gut health is not great, if you have gut dysbiosis, if you're eating a bunch of processed foods, if you're doing things that are great for your gut, your vaginal health could suffer as a result of your gut health.

Lo Bosworth:

And it's really interesting when you think about the vagina, and I know you didn't want to talk about it very much.

Kim:

Oh, we can talk about the vagina. A couple things. I'm very vagina friendly.

Lo Bosworth:

Okay. A couple of things that I think are really important to mention is that the vagina is an immunity organization, and very few people think of the vagina as an immunity organ. But your vaginal ph is regulated by your vaginal microbiome, the bacteria in your vagina. So they got to be healthy to make sure that your vaginal ph is healthy and healthy in the vagina is in an acidic range, 3.5 to 4.5, about, give or take a little bit on the ph scale. And you want it to be acidic because acidity prevents the overgrowth of bad bacteria. Pathogens, too much yeast. Right. So that you can maintain great vaginal health and be comfortable in your body.

Lo Bosworth:

But if your gut health is bad, your vaginal health may be bad. It can invite an infection, and then you're in a place that's very uncomfortable.

Kim:

Well, is the gut considered the second brain? Like, I've heard that before. I mean, I'm not that read up on the gut. Is it. Is it really considered the second you.

Lo Bosworth:

I think that you could consider it to be the second brain. And maybe in women's bodies, the vagina is the third brain.

Kim:

Well, you know, can I just tell you right now, not to make light of this, but there have been nations and kingdoms rise and fall based on the vagina.

Lo Bosworth:

100%.

Zach Miller:

I would just like to point out the double standard here, because I feel like if someone said the penis is my second brain, that's like an insult. That's like, I'm taking it personally.

Kim:

No, that's the first brain, Zac. That's not on a man. That ain't the second. That's number one for a man. That's what he leads with a lot of times.

Zach Miller:

But in all seriousness.

Kim:

Wait, will you back me up there or no? Am I a lone ranger here?

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah, and the vagina is actually even smarter than that. You guys. The vagina. I'm serious. Listen to this. Listen to this piece of truth. The vagina can tell the difference between self and not self. And when I say not self, I mean like pathogens.

Lo Bosworth:

And the vagina. The vagina will attack sperm, but the vagina is smart enough to not attack sperm, which is not self. Not part of women's bodies. Right. It's not self. You think it would attack it, but it's smart enough to know that it should not attack sperm, but it should attack a pathogen. So, yes, the vagina is the third brain.

Kim:

That is why God made a woman. That's all I'm gonna say to that.

Lo Bosworth:

We're brilliant.

Kim:

When I did research, Carlos, we are so brilliant. We're called helpmates for a reason.

Zach Miller:

I looked this up. Cause I was reading all of low stuff, and I looked this up, and Most research says 90% of the body's serotonin, which is like a neurotransmitter, is created in the gu.

Lo Bosworth:

In the tummy.

Zach Miller:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, all, like, when you say it's literally the second brain.

Lo Bosworth:

It is happy hormones starting in the gut.

Kim:

We are so inundated with so much information. Lo as women. I mean, you know, the Internet can be Scary when you get and start googling your symptoms or you start, you know, figuring out what you have and we self diagnoses and all of that. Yes, but you had me in ingestible beauty. What is that?

Lo Bosworth:

So ingestible beauty products generally are things that you can eat that support how you look on the outside. Right. But in my opinion, a lot of that comes down to just the general daily vitamins and nutrients that we should be getting in our diets every single day. But we may not be getting in our diets every single day.

Kim:

Well, what do we do if we don't though? Because, you know, we're not getting it. You know, we're not getting vitamins.

Lo Bosworth:

I think that taking a daily multivitamin, we make a great one. It's called Daily Love is a really great place to start. It's made with 25 nutrients. 18 of them hit the 100% daily value mark. And then I think that making sure that you are hydrated so that your skin looks beautiful, so that you glow, so that you absorb nutrients better, is also a really cool critical part of this longevity and digestible beauty type of story. Because, like, I don't believe in a lot of these, like, oh, like collagen, you know, like, let's like drink it in a glass, whatever. Like, I don't necessarily buy into that. I think you need great daily nutrients as your ingestible beauty heroes.

Lo Bosworth:

And I think that that comes from just the humble multivitamin. Like I said, we make one that's great. It's called Daily Love and the Humble Electrolyte. We have a new one that we are premiering next week on qvc. It's called Daily Love Electrolyte and it is hydration for her. It supports women's hormones. It supports the hydration that we need. Older women actually are less hydrated than younger women because of the natural changes you experience in your body.

Lo Bosworth:

And it tastes great. It's sparkling berry flavor, it's pink, it's very cute. It also only has 10 calories in it, which is incredible.

Kim:

Lo, this is your brand. You're bringing it to the qvc. I'm so excited. I cannot wait to watch you in a few weeks. Have you seen a difference in your health?

Lo Bosworth:

Yes.

Kim:

By taking action on this. Okay, do tell.

Lo Bosworth:

Absolutely, yes.

Kim:

Give me a success story.

Lo Bosworth:

One of the reasons I started my company was because of my vitamin deficiency. I was so fatigued, I had so little energy. It really wreaked havoc throughout my entire body. And so we wanted to develop products like I Said that meet women where they are at, but really I was developing products for myself out of the gate simply because I could not find the types of products that I wanted made in the way that I wanted. Because we really think about and believe in and practice ingredient superiority when it comes to supplements and women's wellness products. So when you look at Love Wellness and you read our ingredient labels, you're not going to find fragrance, you're not going to find corn syrup, you're not going to find a very long list of ingredients that are very commonly found in a wide variety of women's products. Simply because we don't believe they belong in women's bodies, we don't think that they support women's bodies. And so I purposefully wanted to make products in a totally new, game changing way to actually support our bodies.

Lo Bosworth:

Right. Because all of those ingredients, I don't think that they do anything for your health. Right. Tell me what corn syrup is doing for your health.

Kim:

Mm, good point.

Lo Bosworth:

Right?

Kim:

It's a great point. And how does mental health play into this? You know, you, you hear about, I mean, I thought it was like a record number of people are on antidepressants. You know, mental health is such a big thing. How is gut health and mental health, are they connected?

Lo Bosworth:

They are absolutely. Or they are believed to be connected. Right. So scientifically you have the blood brain barrier, which is basically what protects the brain. And things get through this blood brain barrier. Right. And they can negatively affect the brain. And it is believed that things from the gut, if you don't have great gut health, can escape through your gut lining.

Lo Bosworth:

Everyone is familiar with the term leaky gut, right? That's like a popular word when you are talking about challenging gut health. So the idea is things can escape through your gut lining because of leaky gut, get into your blood and then get up through the blood brain barrier, if they are small enough to pass through and can potentially negative affect your brain health. And that is mental health. Like I was depressed and anxious for a really long time when I started my company, but it can also affect how hormones are being developed and sent throughout the body. Like we talked about that serotonin example earlier, right. And I think for me, like when you are a woman and you feel unwell in your body, whether it's your mental health, your gut health, intimate health, you feel embarrassed, you feel shame, you don't have the energy you need to get done what you need to get done throughout the day. And when I started my company, there were very few resources Places you could go to be taken seriously of this stuff. Right.

Lo Bosworth:

And I think that it's improving with brands like Love Wellness because we are having this conversation now. But I think it's really challenging to be in a woman's body specifically with issues like that because there are not a ton of great resources out there. But at Love Wellness, we serve to be one of the best resources available.

Kim:

You mentioned that you dealt with depression and anxiety and I. Statistically, it's at a all time high. Yes, especially with women today. Can you speak to that? Like, what did you go through personally? Do you mind being.

Lo Bosworth:

No, not at all.

Kim:

Transparent about that.

Lo Bosworth:

So when I started to feel unwell, it was a few years after the hills had ended and I was living in New York. I was really unclear about kind of what my next path was career wise. And I was going to culinary school because I love cooking and I love nutrition, I love science, I love, you know, getting healthy through food. And I was working with one of the cooking networks to talk about having a cooking show. And then my deal fell apart. You know how it works in entertainment. One day they're interested in you as talent and then the next day they change their mind. And I had been like on a two year path doing all of this work to get to the next stage in my career.

Lo Bosworth:

And then simultaneously, I was in a extremely emotionally abusive relationship with a partner at the time. It was really challenging and I was in a really, really tough space. But honestly, making the decision to start this company probably saved my life because I had something to live for, come on, to work with every single day. It significantly changed my life and helped me move my life forward. Right. Because I was in this bad relationship. I got this terrible news about work and I just didn't know what to do. And so I was at rock bottom and had to completely rebuild my life and my company.

Lo Bosworth:

Now Love Wellness is like the expression of that.

Kim:

I love that story, Lo, because it truly is. We all have purpose, right? We all have something inside of us that is calling us, it calls out to us. And a lot of times I know for me, I can't speak for you, I can't speak for everybody listening, but I'm a little hard headed sometimes and I want what I want when I want it. And we think, we think we know, but really there's something bigger at play. It sounds like I loved it when you said Love Wellness saved your life.

Lo Bosworth:

It did.

Kim:

And now you're gonna help save others.

Lo Bosworth:

Like that is, I'm hoping. Yeah, you are.

Kim:

Lo you will. We're calling it out. I'm a firm believer of faith and speaking things out. We're going to QVC in a minute. But that's how to me, purpose and calling works. It not only serves and heals you and helps you, but the overflow of that helps others. Right?

Lo Bosworth:

Absolutely. Yeah.

Kim:

Is that what you found in your own, I mean, speak to that. Because there's so many women out there going, I don't feel good, I don't look good. I'm depressed, I'm anxiety. I, I, I not happy with my life, I'm not happy with my relationship. I don't know what to do with my life.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah. I think, you know, for me, when I started my business, everything that I was dealing with was also embarrassing. Right?

Kim:

Come on. Shame.

Lo Bosworth:

You are so ashamed when you are depressed and anxious and you're getting urinary tract infections and your tummy hurts, you are embarrassed and ashamed by those things. We are taught at a young age to be embarrassed and shamed by your bodies. And then when things go haywire in them, oh my God, it's crazy.

Kim:

Yeah. But to show them to everybody too. Be ashamed of them. But just take your clothes off at any chance you get. It's almost like our bodies are for consumption.

Lo Bosworth:

Absolutely. But interestingly enough, when I started to tell my own story about what I was personally dealing with, all of these shameful, embarrassing things that I was dealing with on a daily basis and how they were affecting me so severely affecting my mental health. Right. It wasn't just my relationship and the TV stuff that was making me sad. It was that, like, I was unwell in my body and like, I couldn't figure it out.

Kim:

Right, Right.

Lo Bosworth:

And you should see the emails that we get from customers. You should read the stories that we receive from women who have been dealing with some issue for six years, Right? And they've been looking for solutions that they go into the doctor and they don't know where else to turn, and they find love, wellness, and we really help them move out of that negative space that they have been in and channeled and can't figure out for so long. And so I think for me, I am my own customer. You know what I mean? Like I said, I built this, this business for me because I was so unhappy and so embarrassed all the time and so unwell. And I figured if I was in that position, a lot of women were in that position. And it became my mission in the early days to really try to address that head on. I mean, you can't believe when I launched this business, I started talking about this stuff on the Internet. You should have seen the articles that were written.

Lo Bosworth:

They were so mean. They were so negative. This was in 2016. Right.

Kim:

Yeah, that's a good sign.

Lo Bosworth:

It ultimately ended up being. But these were female journalists that were writing terribly negative things about me and what I was trying to do.

Kim:

We can be mean to each other as women.

Lo Bosworth:

We can be mean. Totally invalidating my experience simply because they had not had that experience. So mine couldn't be real. And it was so frustrating, but it acted like fuel for me. I thought, you don't get to treat me this way. And I just kept going and going, kept going. And nine years later, here we are.

Kim:

People don't understand. Women are. We're complicated. One, we are not. I just heard. We are very. I just heard a collective group of men go, amen. And two, we're all the same, just in different ways.

Kim:

Like, I mean, I know young women who. Can you imagine what their bodies are like? Because now at this generation, low 16, 17 year old young women are dealing with so much unwellness in their bodies because of lack of vitamins. Like, how should, how early should we be really speaking to this, to our young women?

Lo Bosworth:

It's interesting and it's something that we've actually started to talk about at work.

Kim:

You really should.

Lo Bosworth:

How do we think about and approach a younger generation of women and guide them in what we think is the right direction before they get on the wrong track?

Kim:

That's right.

Lo Bosworth:

There is such a lack of good information out there. There's no, like, single resource that's like, this is the goal standard and this is what to do and what not to do. Because even doctors will tell you conflicting information.

Kim:

Right, Sure.

Lo Bosworth:

I think the reality is kids these days, they go to the Internet instead of their parents or instead of, you know, guidance counselors or leaders in their community, they go to the Internet. The Internet teaches them, lord have mercy. And that in and of itself is such a huge challenge. And like, we can only pray that they get the right information before they get the wrong information.

Kim:

Well, that's why you gotta get. That's why you're out here. That's why you're beating the band. That's why you're all over the Internet doing this. Okay, yes, absolutely. We gotta talk about qvc because before you head out, because this is a big launch for you, it's in the next week or so, Love Wellness will be on qvc you know, I've been on QVC for eight years.

Lo Bosworth:

I know. I'm a fan.

Kim:

Oh, wow. I love you, girl. I'm a fan of you, too. So it takes one knowing. Are you nervous, scared, excited? I think this is gonna resonate. You've gotta tell your story. You have to talk about your anxiety, your depression. What popped off to really allow you to birth this? Because there's so many women feeling the same way, Lo.

Lo Bosworth:

So many, I think, more than not.

Kim:

Are feeling this way. I agree.

Lo Bosworth:

So, yes, we are launching on QVC on January 15, 7pm Eastern. Love Wellness has a full one hour show.

Kim:

Oh, my. What? Okay.

Lo Bosworth:

I know I could not be more excited.

Kim:

I'm gonna have to call in. I'm gonna have to call in.

Lo Bosworth:

Please.

Kim:

That would be amazing.

Lo Bosworth:

Please. Oh, please call in, Kim. I would absolutely love that.

Kim:

And I'm gonna call in and say the word vagina. I'm gonna call in and say the word vagina on air.

Lo Bosworth:

Oh, they will.

Kim:

They will not be surprised. They will not be surprised. Not for me. No.

Lo Bosworth:

You asked me what I was most nervous about. Now I'm most nervous about that.

Zach Miller:

Wait, can I ask a real question about this, Lo?

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Zac Miller:

Are there, like, you're moving on to, like, you know, network television talking about all this? Are there guidelines that, like, you know, that you have to follow? Are you not allowed to say vagina?

Lo Bosworth:

It depends on the network and kind of just the comfort level of the network. So everywhere we go, there's a totally different approach and different guidelines to follow. So it really just depends on where I'm at that day, to be totally honest.

Kim:

That's wild. This is the thing, Zac and Log, correct me if I'm wrong, this women are really. We're seeking. I think we're at a place in the world where we are so connected. And I said that in air quotes. And there's so much information readily available because back in the day, y'all. Y'all are too young for this. But I had encyclopedia salesmen come to our house and sell my parents.

Kim:

That's how we got our information. So by the time you got the second set of encyclopedias, they were out of date. Okay?

Lo Bosworth:

Excuse me. I used to go to the library and I know how to find books in the library.

Kim:

Do you know how to do. Ok. Do you know how to use a microfish? Do you know how to use a microfiche? Either one of y'all go right now.

Lo Bosworth:

No, I don't know what to say is.

Zach Miller:

I do. I do.

Lo Bosworth:

But I was gonna say, is that just like encyclopedias at home, so.

Kim:

But you know what I'm saying, Like, there's so much information out there. Women are always on the hunt. We're such problem solution people. Women just get it done.

Lo Bosworth:

We just are fixers.

Kim:

Yes, we are. And so to have you come and really teach us and befriend us and love us into this next level of wellness is going to be exciting to watch. I'm calling in low.

Lo Bosworth:

Please do. I would be so excited.

Kim:

Are you nervous?

Lo Bosworth:

I'm a little bit nervous. But thankfully my time on TV growing up helped prepare me for QVC.

Kim:

It did. It did. And I will tell you, you're so passionate about this. You know, that's the key. I mean, like you said, you've made this for you. And so I can't wait to try it. All right. You mentioned this.

Kim:

I loved one of your posts. It was on Instagram, I think. And you tell the audience what a dopamine menu is. I think you need to share this. Cause this is. I think everybody's dopamine addicted.

Lo Bosworth:

Yes, we are. Absolutely. This was one of my recent Substack posts. And if you're listening, please subscribe to my substack. I'm really trying to grow my substack.

Kim:

Okay. What is a substack? I don't even know what that is.

Lo Bosworth:

Substack is like a new social media platform for writers. And it's kind of like takes old school blogging, but puts it into a single place where there's like a feed. Okay. Kind of like a new social network, but so you don't have to go build your own website. You can go to Substack and just start publishing whatever it is that you want. And a lot of journalists and writers are on there because you can actually require paywalls for content. My content is all free, so I don't have a paywall. You can support subscribe to mine for free.

Lo Bosworth:

But one of the articles I wrote about was how to stop scrolling in an effort to improve cortisol levels and dopamine levels. And when you're scrolling on social media, you keep opening those apps because every time you do, you get a dopamine hit, right? And every time you go to the fridge and get a little delicious snack, you get a dopamine hit.

Kim:

Amen, honey. I am drugged up with dopamine then. Because I love a good snack.

Lo Bosworth:

Same. I love social media and a snack. It's my favorite. Just like Sunday night activity, right? My little bowl of Ice cream. And my little Instagram, it's my favorite.

Kim:

What flavor of ice cream? Lo, get specific.

Lo Bosworth:

I like mint chocolate chip.

Kim:

Me, too. I love the texture of the crunch.

Lo Bosworth:

Okay, chocolate or mint chocolate chip.

Kim:

We're gonna be best friends.

Lo Bosworth:

But the reality is, is that all of these sort of things that have been created in the last 20 years, the Internet, social media, are keeping us in this dopamine loop. And we are addicted to that feeling of dopamine. Right? They build apps and they build games, and they build social media to be addicting because they constantly want you on these things, Right? And so they build them so that you get a dopamine hit every time you get a like or you get a comment or whatever, right? It's a dopamine firing over and over again. And so when you close your phone or you're not eating that yummy snack, you're like, where's my dopamine, man? And you go back to it over and over again. And so the article was how to reset this sort of, like, dopamine expectation. And it's about understanding that our tools have control of us as a first step, with some suggestions on how to reduce your time on your phone on social media, how to focus on some meditation, some prayers, alternatives, things like that, to kind of help you reset as a human.

Kim:

Okay. Lo, I'm so excited I have to come and be a part of your success on qvc. I have to, like, walk on one of your shows. Cause you're gonna be going back. I love that. I think it's gonna be amazing. Y'all go get the book you've got. Love yourself.

Kim:

Well, I love it. It's such. You even have recipes in the back, which. I mean, there's one of the citrus salad. I've already tagged it.

Lo Bosworth:

Oh, that's delicious. Yeah.

Kim:

Oh, my gosh. It looks amazing. Can I just tell everybody what's in it? Hold on, y'all. Let me. Let me tell you one of the recipes. I tagged it. It's got two blood oranges, a small grapefruit, four cup of organic arugula, which I have just recently been obsessed with. Goat cheese.

Kim:

Yum. Pistachios. You could also do pine nuts with that. I would love a good pine nut, olives, olive oil, salt and pepper taste. Y'all get this book. There's recipes. She talks about the vagina, she talks about the gut. Everything is in this.

Kim:

She's going to be on QVC with all the supplements. I'm personally going to go online and buy it. I'm going to wait till the show because I got to support Lo. I've got to ask you a couple of questions though before you go. Okay. We do this kind of thing where we just ask these final questions just to get your take on it. Rapid fire questions. Are you an introvert or extrovert?

Lo Bosworth:

Both. I'm an introvert at parties, but I'm an extrovert at work and at the bodega.

Kim:

Really?

Lo Bosworth:

Uh huh.

Zach Miller:

At the bodega. That's such a New York thing. The bodega.

Kim:

I know.

Zach Miller:

Like are there bodegas anywhere but New York City? You go to a bodega Kim in Atlanta. Is that a thing?

Kim:

Honey, I go to the Target, Walmart and home. Okay. I have two teenage kids. That's all I'm doing is cooking. Okay.

Lo Bosworth:

We've started to get like city targets and stuff in New York. It's really exciting.

Kim:

No, I'm just telling you that's all I'm doing is working and cooking and feeding teenage boys. I know, I'm telling y'all, I live with three penises. Okay, here we go. What do you attribute your success to?

Lo Bosworth:

My parents have been really great influences for me. My dad has really pushed me to push to put myself out there and my mom has taught me how to be a really kind, empathetic and caring person.

Kim:

What's one of the things that you wish women knew about their wellness?

Lo Bosworth:

That it's within their control and that self advocacy is probably the most important thing you can do to get control of anything that's going on in your body. You have to be your own advocate. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

Kim:

There really are no better advocate for yourself than you. You've got to just read and do the work and really, really love yourself enough. Right. To, to do the research, to learn what you can learn, to experience what you can experience and live out. Your call. Would, would you say that I'm overstepping by saying that? I'm not, but I was just gonna ask you if you thought I was.

Lo Bosworth:

I don't think so. You're the only one that lives in your body. Your is experiencing what you are living through every single day. So you are your own best expert.

Kim:

I low. I'm serious. That's the, to me, that is my takeaway from this. You know, that's the, that's the overarching umbrella that all this is going to sit under. Because you know, we are smarter than we think we are. We know more than we know as women. We we give birth. We.

Kim:

We. We present life into this world. We are really, really unique, amazing creatures. We really are.

Lo Bosworth:

We are. Think about the saying, trust your gut. After everything that we've talked about on this podcast, trust your gut.

Kim:

Something a little bit more serious. What's your favorite junk food? Both sweet and salty.

Lo Bosworth:

I love Cheez its. I love Cheez its.

Zach Miller:

That's the best answer we've ever had. I just.

Kim:

Okay, okay, I got. Wait a minute. Let me go. Let me go. Yeah. Bravo. You got taste. I knew it.

Kim:

Do you? Okay, there's different. There's white cheddar, there's jalapeno.

Lo Bosworth:

Original, Original.

Kim:

Just original. I like the extra toasty. Really?

Lo Bosworth:

I like extra toasty. Some recently on a flight, I had extra toasty. And then I wished I just had original. It was a long. It was a long flight too. And I was like, ah, I shouldn't have bought these ones. I should have bought those ones.

Zach Miller:

Have you tried the giant ones? The ones that are like the size of your face?

Kim:

I haven't tried those yet. No. No, that might be a little too Cheez it for me. Do a little too much Cheez it. Okay, I'm gonna leave you. I'm gonna ask you one last question. And I asked this. I travel all over and speak to young girls and I want these young girls to get this book.

Kim:

I'm gonna actually tell em about it. Cause I want.

Lo Bosworth:

Thanks, that's great.

Kim:

The younger we get a hold of loving ourself, well, I think the better off our mothers, daughters, sisters, all of this will be in the future. But it's never too late, though. So we gotta go check low out on QVC and all of her supplements. But I always ask the young girls, lo, every time I leave them, I say, I want you to give me one thing that's beautiful about you on the outside and one beautiful thing about you on the inside. And it's never ceases to amaze me how so many women have a hard time young girls and women have a hard time saying that. So I'm going to leave that with you. What is one beautiful thing about you on the outside and one beautiful thing about you on the inside?

Lo Bosworth:

I think I have nice hands.

Kim:

Ooh. Oh. Hold them up to the camera. I've got. Oh, you've got. I've got man hands. See how my hands look manly? And I've got big wrists. So yeah, you do have nice hands.

Lo Bosworth:

I agree. In the early days of love wellness, I was our hand model. I would like to photo shoot See this hand modeling happening?

Kim:

You do have really long fingers.

Lo Bosworth:

I have very long fingers. So I would think my hands are. Are something nice on the outside, but I think on the inside, I. I'm a Libra. And so I have the capacity to understand both sides of the story. And I think as somebody in my position, that is a really beautiful thing and it helps me every day. So I have all kinds of friends, people with all different opinions and views of the world and, you know, ways that they act and live in it. Because I have been blessed with the capacity to understand a lot of different points of view.

Kim:

It's that empathy. It's that being able to connect.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah, it's empathy.

Kim:

Well, I adore you and everybody. You've got to tune in and watch Lo on QVC. You can connect with Lo on Instagram and TikTok @LoBosworth. Her brand is called Love Wellness. So connect with that on social media @lovewellness.

Kim:

And the website is lovewellness.com and starting January 15th, you can get all of the Love Wellness products on qvc. Thank you for coming on the show, Lo. We are now sisters. We are QVC sisters. Welcome to the sisterhood, honey, and get ready for the ride of your life.

Lo Bosworth:

I'm so excited. I was in Westchester a few weeks ago. Can't wait to be there again in a few days, girl.

Kim:

And we will see each other and maybe we can go grab lunch and I'll buy.

Lo Bosworth:

I love that. Thank you. Thank you for having me on the show. Nice to meet you guys.

Kim:

I lost my earpiece, girl. It fell out and it's under the chair somewhere, I swear.

Lo Bosworth:

That's okay.

Zach Miller:

So can you hear it off camera now?

Kim:

I can hear out of my computer now. This one's not connected.

Lo Bosworth:

Kim, I have one question. What's your number one tip I should follow for on air?

Kim:

You wanna know the truth?

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim:

You have such a. I want you to just give me a hug. Like, to me just talking to you. I just want you to give me a hug around my heart and around my body and just go, it's all gonna be okay. You have got to tell your personal story about what you struggled with. And then you just have to be yourself. You are so calming. You are the perfect person to do.

Kim:

God knew what he was doing. I'm sorry. I'm a person of faith, so I'm just gonna tell you like it is. God knew what he was doing, giving this calling to you because you are like, for me, people be like, kim is Crazy. I ain't doing that. You are so believable. And so I don't wanna say, like, you're just so. You're a soft place to land.

Lo Bosworth:

Okay. That's nice. Yeah. I have to balance the restrictions on claims with, like, personal storytelling.

Kim:

We don't need the claims. We need you.

Lo Bosworth:

Okay. Okay. All right. That's really helpful.

Kim:

We need you. We need your spirit, and we need your. We need your. We need your advocacy. Cause a lot of women don't feel empowered enough. It's not that they don't feel smart enough. I think women feel like. I think we all think we know we're smarter than most, but I think we feel it's a little intrepidatious.

Kim:

There's a little fear there to step into this world. We know we're deficient in a lot of ways from a wellness standpoint. I mean, hello, McDonald's. I know burger King. I mean, you know, as moms. And then we feel as women that we are, like you said, the shame, because we're like. We're eating like crap. That's why we feel like.

Kim:

It's not that we don't know there's a problem.

Lo Bosworth:

Yeah.

Kim:

But we need an advocate to say, you can do this and try this. That's you.

Lo Bosworth:

All right. Thank you. That's really helpful. I appreciate it.

Kim:

I'm serious. I can't wait. Who's your host?

Lo Bosworth:

Mary Beth.

Kim:

Mary Beth Rowe. Oh, my God, girl. You can't handle the better host. She's a. She's getting ready to retire. Like, she. I mean, I just had three shows with her yesterday. Killed.

Lo Bosworth:

That's great. Yeah, we're really excited. I did my training with her, and I was. I saw her a couple weeks ago in person, and I was there, so she's great. And then we have Pat the day before on qvc, too.

Kim:

I'm going to be watching, and I'll tweet out about it, Instagram out about it and all that. I don't tweet.

Lo Bosworth:

So kind. Really. We appreciate the support. We know what audience you have. So, really, it's like, such a big deal that you said yes to us doing the show.

Kim:

Truly, we're excited. Count me in. I'll be watching. I'm gonna try to call in and see if they'll let me in.

Lo Bosworth:

Thanks. That's so nice.

Kim:

Okay. I love that. And I promise I might say vajayjay. I won't say vagina. I'll do what I need to do, lo, to get us through

Kim:
The Kim Gravel Show is produced and edited by Zac Miller at Uncommon Audio. Our associate producer is Kathleen Grant from the Brunette Exec. Production help from  Emily Bredin and Sara Noto. Our cover art is designed by Sanaz Huber at Memarian Creative. Our show is edited by Mike Kligerman. Our guest intros are performed by Roxy Reese. Our guest booking is done by Central Talent Booking. Our ads are furnished by True Native Media. And y'all, I want to give a big huge thank you to the entire team at QVC+ and a special thank you to our audience for making this community so strong. If you are still listening then you must have liked a few episodes along the way. So tell somebody about it. Tell somebody about this show and join our mailing list at kimgravelshow.com. I cannot do this show without you and so I thank you from the bottom of my heart for listening. I hope you gain a little bit of encouragement, light and love love from watching and listening to The Kim Gravel Show.

Kim:

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