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Sept. 28, 2023

Huge Kim Of Queens News!

All of my Kim of Queens secrets are being revealed this week in honor of my big KOQ announcement.

I asked for your Kim of Queens questions, and boy, did you deliver. This week I'm spilling the tea on what it was like shooting Kim of Queens. That’s right, all of my reality TV secrets are bring revealed, and is off limits, including whether or not I still coach pageants, how long my days on set were, and whether Allisyn actually has bad taste.

 

Truly my heart and my passion my whole entire life is to see girls rise to the biggest and best selves, and Kim of Queens was the platform I used to bring that message of empowerment and confidence to a national audience for the first time. This message is just as vital today as it was back when Kim of Queens first aired, and this podcast is continuing that same work. 

 

Make sure to watch Season 1 of Kim of Queens, which drops at 5pm EST today on QVC+. Join me with my mom and sister as we watch Kim of Queen together in our brand new “Behind the Queens” bonus content that's part of every episode on QVC+

 

 

This is one of my favorite quotes from this week’s episode:

“Every mold out there is made to be broken. – Kim Gravel

 

 

In this episode:

Is Kim of Queens returning?

Am I still a pageant coach?

What made Kim of Queens fulfill my passion

How to stay committed to your calling when you’re feeling down

Why everyone has to keep working towards personal growth

Kim of Queens Rapid Fire Questions

 

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Transcript

*This transcript was auto-generated*

Kim Gravel: Coming up on the Kim Gravel Show. Today, we're going back. We're taking it all the way back to Kim of Queens.

Zac Miller: Kim of Queens is back! Y'all wait, and I got a soundboard full of...

Kim Gravel: My daddy always used to say, The bigger the buttcheeks, the sweeter the meat.

Zac Miller: I got these for days. I got these for days, Kim. Did you have a favorite mom? Do you actually hate clogging? What was your favorite episode? If right now you got a phone call and it said, We want to make another season of Kim of Queens, Would you do it?

Opening Introduction: Let's just go on and spill the tea. This is The Kim Gravel Show. This is one of the realest persons I've ever met in my darn life. You gotta watch this. My mission is to encourage every single woman, we're here to lift y'all up. There's no one more effective than moms. You mess with the bull. You going to get the horns. I need coffee. I need Jesus and I need therapy. If you can bring a smile to people's faces, why would you not? We love our kids. We love our husbands. What a blessing. We're gonna dedicate this to you in finding your superpower. Okay girl. True confidence is knowing who you are and why you're here.

Kim Gravel: Hey y'all, Kim Gravel here. And this is the Kim Gravel show. And, every week or whenever you listen, y'all. We're just wanting to encourage you and help you level up your life and we're going to do it together. When I say level up life, I mean go to a bigger, higher, larger, more successful place in your life, happier, joyful.

All the things we're all looking for. Hopefully you can find a piece of that here on the Kim Gravel Show. Today, it's, it's really, you know, people say you can never go back, Zac. Have you ever heard that? So you can never go back.

Zac Miller: You can, or it's like you can't go home again, right? That's another one.

Kim Gravel: Right, right. Yeah, that's it. You know, you can, you know, don't look back. It's in the rear view. Don't, you know, all of that. You can go back, you can't go back and today we're going back. We're taking it all the way back to Kim of Queens. Y'all, my first, national TV debut and launch was on a lifetime network.

With the show, Kim of Queens, it was a reality show. Where we, we mentored and helped young girls, you know, compete in pageants, but more importantly, become these young women, these leaders, these, these empowered, confident young women. And we did it for two seasons. And Zac, Kim, that's where we met.

She's back.

Zac Miller: It's back.

Kim Gravel: That's where we met.

Zac Miller: Kim of Queens is back, y'all, wait, and I got a soundboard full of, I love it.

Kim Gravel: Play another one.

FIller: So good, you gotta go. Kim of Queens is back.

Kim Gravel: Kim of Queens is back. That's huge. That's huge. So, let me just tell you, Kim of Queens is airing today, Season 1. It drops on QVC Plus today. The full season. Now, I want to tell you, behind the scenes, we're calling it Behind the Queens.

Uh huh. That was, that was Zac's snazzy little title. It's going to be with my sister and my mom, and we're going to just talk. Spill the tea on what the really was like taping this show and how wonderful it was. But today, Zac, aren't we doing something special?

Zac Miller: We are. So wait, we have to tell them the behind the Queens content is all like part of what's going season one going on QVC plus.

So if you want to see that extra content head on over to qvc plus it's out today All of season one drops today And stay to the end of those episodes watch kim. I was there. I flew out to record kim and her family doing this and We had a blast when we did that.

Kim Gravel: And mom and I and Allisyn were back in the saddle, you know, looking at the camera talking, I remembered, you know what?

I love Kim of Queens, but you know, you really can't go back. You can watch it, but you really can't. Cause I was thinking, Oh my Lord, if I had to take that with them to again.

Zac Miller: Well, Kim, I just want to say, I mean, what's the worst that could happen?

Kim Gravel: Double homicide?

Stop it. That was brilliant. Zac, maybe we can't go back. Maybe we can't go back.

Zac Miller: Speaking of brilliant.

Kim Gravel: My daddy always used to say, the bigger the buttcheeks, the sweeter the meat.

Zac Miller: I got these for days. I got these for days, Kim.

Kim Gravel: Do another one. Just call me Butter, baby, cause I'm on a roll.

Zac Miller: Oh my god, I got these all day long.

Oh my gosh, I love it. I had so much fun.

Kim Gravel: Well, it clearly shows my southern passion. That's for sure, this show. We reached out to my social media and asked all of you to just... Give us any questions that you have. I mean nothing's off the table, right? Yeah, nothing off the table We nothing kim posted she asked for questions from kim of queens fans and boy did they deliver like we got hundreds of questions kim like When I told you before we started recording this I have questions for days like this could be a six part episode Where you're just answering questions a lot honestly, though a lot of the stuff that Like the really deeper questions is covered when you all go behind the queens in those episodes.

Zac Miller: So if you are Kim of Queens fan, seriously, go watch, go watch the new episodes. There's new content there. It's so much fun.

Kim Gravel: You want to hear something so funny today? I'm going to pull it up right now. Today. Angie from Kim of Queens texted me, Hey there, it's Angie. Oh, there's going to be something there. Oh yeah.

Zac Miller: Oh, I bet she probably saw because you also posted on social media about Kim of Queens coming back. So we record this a couple of weeks early. Kim of Queens comes back. Today, but we're recording this like a week earlier, but

Kim Gravel: she said hey there. It's angie. I said, what's up girl. I miss you

Zac Miller: All right, well, so that's actually one of the questions let's get into the questions because

Kim Gravel: Y'all look like I got a good deal at liverace's yard sale Can I just tell you I won't show none of those sound bites were written all of that Was out of my mouth and head into the microphone and can I just tell you I did not know that I Talked in sound bites with smart, but comments all the time.

I did Kim is gonna do it Kim's way Amen. What more? I mean, it was my show. It was my Pony and I wrote it. Okay, it don't matter if you've got a perfect body or perfect face You've got your lips all glossed up. If something smart ain't coming through them, you can hang it up.

Zac Miller: That was it. That was it.

Kim Gravel: That, can I say something? That's my life philosophy. That is my new tagline for my life. You can look gorgeous, you have the perfect body, and you gloss your lips up, but they ain't... Something smart coming out of it. You forget it. Hang it up.

Zac Miller: Gosh. All right. So speaking of something smart, let's get into these questions.

Cause we did get a lot of really smart questions. So the most asked question that we've already kind of addressed is, is the show coming back? But then folks also want to know, are you still coaching and does pageant place still exist?

Kim Gravel: Okay. Yes, I'm still coaching. I coach a handful of girls that I, feel led and inspired to coach.

In fact, I just two years ago, I had a first run up to Miss Georgia. I had a, I had a girl go into Miss Georgia this year and now she's aged out, but now she's coaching girls. So she's passing on the pageant place philosophy pageant place. Allisyn ran pageant place for, for like five or six years and she's still coaching too.

Again. Just a handful. We basically just coach interview. We will help with wardrobe or whatever with girls. We feel like have potential. Allisyn ran five, five years, pageant place for five years after the show ended. But pageant place is no longer, it's no longer LLC. It's no longer a business.

You know, because we have, have moved on to QVC with our brands, but we're always seeing the potential and always pouring into young girls, that we feel passionate and feel led to help.

Zac Miller: That's awesome. I just want to give a hat trick to, Twirler Babe 18, who wrote this question in the best possible way, who said, I would simply explode with excitement to know if the show is coming back.

So thank you for that.

Kim Gravel: Well, you know what? You know what, Zac, the show is not coming back per se with new seasons, but how, how fantastic has it stood the test of time that so many young girls that, that were babies when the show was out are now rediscovering the show thanks to streaming. And also that even QVC and QVC Plus have decided to re air Kim of Queens.

And I think, It's a testament to the message, which has been truly my heart and my passion. My whole entire life is to see girls rise to the biggest and best selves. Now, you know, now it's through QVC and in our clothing line or our beauty line and of course this podcast, but you know, it just goes to prove my point about a calling in life.

It can look different in different seasons of your life, but the calling never changes. That's huge. It's huge.

Zac Miller: You're just really lucky. I didn't use this one.

Kim Gravel: Can you take the bus to shutty town? Let me get my point of view across. Who did I say that to on the show?

Zac Miller: I think you said that to Angie. I think that was Angie.

Kim Gravel: Okay, Angie. Now, speaking of Angie, she just texted me back. She goes, I heard KOQ is coming to QVC. Lord, L A W D. I miss y'all.

Zac Miller: So wait, so that's another question that we got a lot, which is like, are you still in contact with the girls with the moms spill the tea on that a little bit? Like, who do you still talk to?

Is it anybody?

Kim Gravel: Yes, I am. It's not an everyday, but I mean, Allisyn just had coffee with Deb last Friday. I mean, Deb and Hannah, we stay in contact with, Raven, I stay in contact with her on social, Addison, I still stay in contact with her on social, you know, we all don't live in the same community, so we don't get together, physically, but I'm always keeping an eye out on the girls and what they've got going on and how they're growing as, as young women, Ainsley, and, and, and I talked to Ainsley and her mother every now and then, and we keep in touch with social media, so the answer to that is yes, they'll always be my girls and, and I'll always love them.

And, When you do reality TV, mom and I were the two main ones that we all of us grew from the experience. Okay, hands down. But mom and I probably were the most, God, how can I say this without like being? Too real. We were probably the most real.

Zac Miller: This is Kim. This is a safe space.

Kim Gravel: We were very, we were very secure in our personal lives, professional lives.

So, you know, when you go into something like reality TV, you see how people go nuts, nuts. Okay. I mean, hello. That's what reality TV is all about. But I think, you know, I had been Miss Georgia. I had been on a national platform. I had experienced how TV and all that, you know, really is. Cause it's really not.

It's just a job, right? Okay. So it's not this thing where you're just this amazing person and everything is glamorous and it's not, it's just a gig. It's a job. It's a, it's a thing to, to do where you earn your paycheck. Okay. And I'm so thankful for Kim of Queens and for lifetime and Rob Sharon on all the people at lifetime who really saw the potential in this show and in this message.

But really it was a stepping stone. And I think a lot of people for, That were in the show, they grew a lot because they realized a lot of things about themselves and about, what they could or couldn't do.

Zac Miller: You're saying it's a job and I think what you're, I mean. You know, I'm not gonna try to put words in your mouth, but like, it's hard work.

Like, it is

Kim Gravel: No, put words in my mouth! It's just Oh my god, Zac.

Zac Miller: We were just talking about, like, you had young kids, and like, tell me about Let's talk about the hours. Talk about the hours of shooting Kim of Queens for a second, because I was there. 18 hour days? 20 hour days?

Kim Gravel: Doing what I'm doing right now with the camera, I would sit for eight hours and answer questions and go, call me biscuit, baby, butter, baby, because I'm on a roll.

I mean, I would just sit there and I would be exhausted. I'd be like, if I have to say y'all one more time, I'm gonna die. Well, and you need, you know, it's a performance. It's energy, but it's like you want when you're in the reality TV is like a bubble, so it's like its own. Echo. What is it called?

Echosphere. Echosphere.

Zac Miller: Echochamber.

Kim Gravel: Echochamber. One of them. I knew it was echo something. It's like, so you don't live in the real world. I mean, you're not going home watching your TV and cooking dinner and you know, doing homework. You're, you're, can you believe Angie did that? You know, you're, you're, it's passion and passion and passion.

And I would always have to be. Bring myself like, all right girl, don't get upset 'cause they called you, you know, to B word, just bring it on back home. And I, I always had to try to be mature and take the high road. You know, and 'cause I didn't want the show to turn into something that it was not intended to be, which we wanted to do Kimm of Queens, to really encourage girls.

'cause I was doing that personally every day. You know, people say, was pageant place a business? It wasn't the fact we had to pay taxes, but it was a passion project. It was a ministry for me. It was not something I gouged people to make a bunch of money at. It was, I really wanted to pay it forward in the way that it was done to me by, Nancy Williams, who was my pageant trainer, my mother.

Um, you know, all the people, women that had been in my life that had made me successful in my pageantry. And in my performance, I wanted to do that for, for young girls. So, and sometimes I would charge, I'd have to charge because if you don't charge people, they don't take it seriously. They don't value it.

They don't value it.

Zac Miller: It's funny. When I, I know like from working on it and, and from meeting you, you know, my first impression, I will tell you right now, like my first impression, I was like, Oh, we're doing another pageant show. I don't know what this is going to be like, you know, are we going to be like exploiting people?

And you know, that's sort of, I think that, I think that especially reality TV around pageants has a bad rap. And I think, you know, certain other shows like kind of created that. And. I would always tell people, like, when I would talk about the show, like, no, no, this show is different. Like, Kim is different.

Kim and her family are really, are really lifting these girls up and really, like, it's about creating that, that confidence. It's about going out there and being who you are. And that was the message throughout and it was so positive. And I think that actually is, is what made it work. And then also maybe what made it hard to, like, continue forever.

Kim Gravel: Well, and I'll tell you, it, it it, it was hard behind the scenes too because the medium of television is so weird.

It's so weird in the fact that it's not real. Okay. Like what we consider celebrity or television, all that y'all, it's just regular old people, just like you and me. I mean, I'm just a regular old person. I mean, I'm just a person that struggles with my kids, with my husband, with paying bill. It was just like everybody else.

You know, we all have the same problems. We all have the same struggles with insecurity. I'm insecure all the time. Would you, would you make another season? Like, if, if right now you got a phone call and it said, we want to make another season of Kim of Queens, would you do it?

I'd have to pray about that one, Zac.

Okay. I, I would tell you, it would have to be, it would have to be working with people like you, and Sarah, Ibadi, all of my people that, that are like minded. I, I, I don't, At this point in my life, and at this, stature of my life and where I am in this season, I have to work with like minded people who want the same thing out of a project.

If I could give anybody a piece of advice right now, I would say, Surround yourself with people who have the same motive. That was the hardest thing for me, was people who didn't have the same outcome and motive in mind. Okay. So, so to answer your question, would I consider it, I'd have to pray about it and then it would have to be, staffed and surrounded by people who wanted the same thing, which is to create, you know, a great show with excellence, but also to make an impactful difference.

Zac Miller: I was warned about your mom. They were like, okay, so like, listen, like Kim's great and like, you know, Allisyn's great, like, but you kind of have to like, watch out for, for Miss Jo. Watch out for her mom because she's kind of a lot and she's like, she kind of scared the last production manager. Yeah, she don't play.

Oh my gosh, it was so funny. Yeah, and and that's true.

Kim Gravel: So to say this the kids didn't work. Mom didn't work that much Allisyn You know how she barely works. Anyway, she skates in and out

Zac Miller: She's laying on the floor. She's breaking her legs. She's doing all sorts of crazy.

Kim Gravel: She was When she passed out in one of the I think it was one of the final scenes of season two.

She was drunker than Cooter Brown the night before and she passed out because she had a hangover and there was no air in the building and she was like, I just need to go upstairs and get in my room. And she passed out. So they'd be like, Oh, Allisyn. She did it on purpose that she's made for reality TV.

Zac Miller: Kim, I think we should, let's do a commercial. We'll come right back.

Kim Gravel: Yeah, y'all. I need a break. We'll be right back.

All right. We are breaking it down. Did I tell you Kim of Queens season one, okay, is coming on QVC plus today and behind the Queens is the extra content you get with each episode. So head over to QVC plus y'all and check it out. So many great episodes. You know what, Zac? As I was like rewatching a little bit when we were taping Behind the Queens, I was just like, Oh, my God.

I mean, the memories, the, the just everything about it. Can I say this? I'm so glad I can sit here today and, and be, and be proud of the work that we did on that show.

Zac Miller: I know. I was, I, I rewatched all of it, to produce, cause I produced the Kim of Queens, the Kim of Behind the Queens, and, I, I loved it. I, I was great.

It was like, this is a really good show that I really stand behind and I, and I love making it. I do too. I really think that it, it really will bless a whole group of new people that see it now that it's coming back.

Kim Gravel: And don't you think like it was needed then Zac. I think the message was definitely needed then, but now more so than ever.

Ever. I think we're in a place where really, I think it was a little ahead of its time is what I'm trying to say. Oh, just a little bit.

Zac Miller: All right. Well, let me, let's get back into questions because we were just, we were just talking about Allisyn and all her shenanigans. And, Bella Gallopin, asked this question on Instagram.

She said, did Allisyn really have bad taste or was it just for the comical aspect of the show? Love you both.

Kim Gravel: Allisyn has horrible taste to this day, still. Now, let me say this, Bella. Taste is subjective, right? Okay. It is. I'm gonna, somebody, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I'm not judging that, okay?

But when it comes to like, who would you want to pick out your car color, your wallpaper, your paint color, your shoes to go with your outfit, your earrings, you know, your hair. It's not her. It's not her.

Zac Miller: Okay. All right. That's good.

Kim Gravel: And I will tell you that it has been a family, and, and, and she says her taste is wonderful and the delusion that she has in that, I, I admire.

I appreciate it. Honestly. I wish I had that kind of delusional belief in myself.

Zac Miller: In the first episode of the, of the whole series, episode one, the pilot, you send her out to go get like a camo dress. And it is. Hilarious what she comes back with

Kim Gravel: she's Allisyn and mom are just I'm afraid to even say this but and I don't mean this in the sense I'm just trying to put you in perspective.

They're like dumb and dumber Yeah, you know that movie where it's just like two ding dongs make a great team. It's that's them. They're the ding dong girls

Zac Miller: I feel like, here's the thing, can I,

Kim Gravel: and you know what? No, no, no, I want to say this too, and I'm going to defend this because I'm going to get some bad emails, which I don't care because y'all don't know, I know, but Amy and all my family agree with me, like I'm not a lone wolf here.

Zac Miller: But your mom has tremendous taste, like your mom is on.

Kim Gravel: Yes, but she, her and Allisyn, believe it or not. Like they are very similar. That's shocking. Like I just got off the phone. They're very similar. They're very similar. They, they are, they love life. They, I mean, I'm the tortured soul. It's not them, but they love life.

They love, they love people. They love having fun. You know, my mom just looks better doing it, but I'm just saying that they're like, so for me, I'm always serious. It's my business and winning and we got to prevent. You know, yeah, they're not like that. So when you put them together, it's just one big fun ball of mess.

And you know, I like that. Oh my god, I think I love you.

Zac Miller: Oh, these, these sound effects.

Kim Gravel: Okay. You know what? I'm a little afraid for, for, for this to drop today on QVC Why? I'm thinking, oh god, I don't know. There's something on it.

Zac Miller: I just want to say, I just want to yeah, you're going to be forced to do another season because the mob is coming for you.

Oh. Okay, wait, Kim, seriously. I want to say this too, like as producing this behind the queen stuff, I was actually going into it a little bit worried because it's like, it's, it's been 10 years, but no, let me say this because I think this because like you and your mom and your sister were all there. You're, you're talking behind the scenes stuff, but in the show, like you're kind of mean to each other.

Not, and here's the thing. It's all from such a place of love, like you're having so much fun with it, but for me, as an outsider, I was like, okay, are they going to watch this episode because you're watching, you know, episodes and reacting to it and watching along with, you know, with it and are they going to watch this and be like, start fighting again, like what's going to happen, but,

Kim Gravel: but you can't, you can't deny truth is that, I mean, it's not like I'm sitting there being mean for main sake.

 I mean, it is what it is. I mean, like,

Zac Miller: you're not mean. You're blunt. Maybe. Maybe that's the word.

Kim Gravel: Well, I mean, I'm sure there's a little mean. I mean, but it's family and that's what families do. And they get, they just slice and dice and then you get over it or you don't. I mean, that, and I always say get over it because this is all you got y'all.

I mean, family is all you got. And this might not be the family you were born with, but it might be the family you chose. And that's good too. But I'm just saying like. I say this to the girls I've trained, I say this to my children, and I was taught this by my mom and dad, an offensive spirit, someone who gets mad and offended about everything, that is going to cost you relationships.

And I'm not trying to get on this preach and teach moment, but I'm just saying like, We had to do that as a family.

Zac Miller: Like, I mean, well, it was good TV. You have to do that.

Kim Gravel: It came natural. What I'm saying is that was not something we just put on, you know, on TV. I mean, that is who we are as people.

And I think that's what people related to. Cause like my, even my husband and my mother. are so blunt and honest with each other. And, and they're so close because of it. So, you know, it's worked for our family. It does. There's a lot of love. That's why the, the, the criticism and, and the, the, the little backbiting and fighting is, is, I'm not saying it's always okay because it's not.

But, it doesn't hurt as bad in the long term because we all know we have each other's back and we love each other. I do know that I have big hair. I have big boobs and a big back. I have a big mouth. And I say a lot of country cliches. It's true.

Zac Miller: I just said, like, I'm gonna pepper these in as we go.

Kim Gravel: I had one, I had one agent talk to me, one Hollywood agent, and he said to me, Is there any way that you can...

Not talk in southern, southern colloquialisms. And you were like, no, sorry. And I thought, I was offended, of course, he has that little offended spirit. And then I thought, you know, no, I can't. I'm sorry.

Zac Miller: What can I say? Just back to your family. Like, really, like, we got maybe five minutes into the day of filming these. And I knew immediately that it was just gonna be, like, fun. It was just gonna be fun. Because no one was offended. No one was worried about everyone was laughing and it was so much fun. And that's the way you all are in real life.

Kim Gravel: Yes. Don't take yourself so seriously. Oh Lord. My mom's got pink on both eyes because my mother goes and basically like. Hugs every kid at the church. She teaches the choir at the church. She has a puppet ministry y'all need to listen to me This is no lie why they didn't put this on camera I don't know but she has these little puppets and they do their little puppet show herself.

Zac Miller: Can we film that like a me can we just stop stop recording right now?

Just go to wherever she is and just get her to do a puppet show for us right now

Kim Gravel: And I'm talking about, these puppets are high dollar puppets, okay? This ain't no sock puppet you make at the house. Okay. These puppets cost two and three hundred dollars a pop. And she's got so many of them. And y'all, when I tell you this is true stuff here, like, she'll call me, so, so anyway, long story short, she just called me and she goes, Well, I head the Puppet Ministry Sunday at church, and I guess I'll just hug them two little kids I've got total pink eye and a cold.

I'm like, Mom, these kids are gonna kill you. You're 76. You know, she just hugs on them and loves on them and doing her little puppets. Oh my gosh, and honestly, that's what she loves. My mom loves working with young kids and teaching them and, and encouraging them. That's she's all she's ever done. So of course the show was a natural progression of how we were raised.

 You know? And that's, but I mean, I will tell you true story. She was the ball Springs Baptist church. She's been there forever. She's like, she's like, she's older than the disciples. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, she is Miss Deacon of America. And so everybody looks to my mom for leadership.

But, that she, my Allisyn said, Carl, we got to stop mom from working with these kids. This is just a little sidebar. I said, what do you mean? She goes, we were at church. And mom goes, listen, Emily, shut up and sit down. God loves you and so do I, but shut up and sit down. That's how she talks to the kids at church.

Zac Miller: That's your mom. I mean that to a T. Like, I don't know.

Kim Gravel: That's my mom. And they all love her! All the kids are like, Oh, Ms. Jo, I love you, Ms. Jo!

Zac Miller: Which is, which, like, I'm terrified by her, but like, I also love her, so.

Kim Gravel: And she's 76 and she's never gonna change,

Zac Miller: and we don't want her to.

And we don't want her to.

Kim Gravel: Zac, she told you to shut up. She told you to shut up.

Zac Miller: All the time! I mean, like, many times. And I just, you know, sometimes I shut up. What you gonna do? Okay, so this one, here's another one. This one is from Mary Kendall Chap from Instagram. She wrote, Talk to us about all things wardrobe from Kim of Queens.

Were your outfits your own? Cause this was pre Belle, right? Or was it supplied by a company or the pageant industry or the producers? And what about like the pageant contestants? Tell us all about their wardrobes.

Kim Gravel: Our wardrobe was our personal wardrobe, just stuff out of our closets. I tried to dress a little over the top.

I love, believe it or not, I love over the top. So I'm like, no, not you, Kim. I do. I love to dress larger than life. And so, you know, I use my own wardrobe. So did Allisyn, so did mom. The girls did too, except for pageant. They use some of their own pageant dresses too, but we also had a boutique here in town called girly girls.

She's in Beaufort, Georgia, and she would help the girls and let them loan dresses and stuff because we were competing every single week in a pageant. So we worked so many. Yeah, it was a lot. And, and believe it or not, it's like, You know, it's like athletes, they need time off and they need time to, you know, it's, it's the same kind of thing.

And these girls were, boy, were they, were they troopers or what? These girls really, really, not only are beautiful, but smart, but just their endurance and everything. So, this girly girl boutique, I suggest anybody in town, check them out. There's so, there's such variety and they were, they're still there.

They're still there. They've grown. They've gotten even bigger. They were awesome. They were really great to work with too. Yeah, they were. They were.

Zac Miller: Okay, okay. This is a good one. Cause I, I'm building off of this, like just how, how it was pretty hard. Lulu Wands wrote, How do you go on air when you're feeling down or tired?

How do you push through? I think so much of what we've just been talking about is like pushing through.

Kim Gravel: That's a great question. Because I go on air every week, almost exhausted and tired. So. You know, can I tell you, you know that saying, do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life?

When I would dread getting to set at Kim of Queens, and sometimes I dread like doing my shows here, but when I'm in it, when the light comes on or where I'm connecting, you know, via camera or with people, it becomes so amazing. Yeah, it's like the energy comes, the focus comes, the gratitude comes. So I know I'm made to do what I'm doing to communicate and be connected to people, and edification in that process.

So what I say to you is you got to find something that makes you feel that way when that light comes on, meaning. The work is still the work, gathering your clothes, doing this, preparing your whatever's and all that's, that's when you're like, Oh God, I want to do this. But when you're in the thing, doing it, if you come alive.

So what I'm saying to you is you're not going to love every aspect of your calling and what you're doing, but you do all of the cruddy stuff to get to the stuff that does give you the passion energy. So leading up to it, I'm like, Oh God, I do the show. But when it happens, I'm so alive, right? So that's how I keep my energy.

It's not, I'm not manifesting this energy from this place of whatever it is who I am. It comes naturally. So that's what you need to look for in your own life and in your own calling, right?

Zac Miller: What's the thing that brings you that energy and just like How can you do more of that and make that your thing,

Kim Gravel: but I want to be clear, Zac.

 It's not going to be that way. A hundred percent of the time. Like so many people, like I'm just telling you,

Zac Miller: you're saying it's a job. So is there something that you tell yourself like on those days, just building off this question, like on those days, those mornings.

Kim Gravel: It's just commitment, you just, you just gotta do it.

Just commitment, babe. It's consistency through commitment. That's it. Yep. If you do something for 100 hours for a year for 365 days, so it's like 18 minutes a day by the time the end of the year comes, you will be better than 95 percent of the world doing it. So it's, it's not about how much you do.

It's the consistency in which you do it with that . That's it.

Zac Miller: Wow. Okay. Here's a good one, Kim. I'm 31, but I need your training and push. And then she wrote seven of the like laughing till you're crying emojis. I love it. So, you know, what do you say to someone that needs, that feels like she needs your training, she needs your push?

Kim Gravel: I think everybody needs a coach. Everybody needs training. Everybody needs to be encouraged and reminded of what they can do and who they are. That's why I'm so, I'm such a proponent and such a fan of mentorship. And also, you know, I don't want to push classes and things on the internet, but they do do a good work.

I mean, if you can afford it and you can invest in your personal development, I would say yes. And I don't personally coach like that anymore. I used to, But we have a course coming out that can help you with that too. But iron sharpens iron. So, you know, I'm very, strongly in, in favor of getting coaching and I don't care how old you are.

I mean, my mom is still growing and learning. I mean, she's still, she's still, I mean, she, she, she'll tell you the people she watches, dr. Jeremiah, she, she, she's always trying to stimulate and grow and get better. And so for you saying, yeah, you do need. If you, if you feel like you need to grow and step out in a personal way, find someone, find a book, find a, find some interactions, find a community of people that can, you can all do that together.

Y'all let me tell you something. When you stop growing, you're done. You're done. You know, I say that about my friend, Dion Sanders, because it's so funny how, you know, he's like the hottest thing going right now. And I've known him for a long time and he's like a brother from another mother. But, you know, we don't even talk about his.

His NFL career, Hall of Famer career and winning two major, you know, World Series and, you know, Super Bowl. We don't even talk about those accomplishments anymore. He has grown. Right. Even from, you're thinking, how can you grow from that? Now he's, now he's like one of the best coaches out there. I'm just telling you like.

Growth is important, babe. And so do what you've got to do to help your personal growth. It's important. And so I say, yes, you do, you do need a coach. You do need someone to push you and help you to get better. And do it. We all do.

Zac Miller: Okay, so we have so many questions left, but we're running out of time. I'm gonna do Okay.

Rapid fire questions. For these ones, okay? You ready? So these are all Kimikoo's rapid fire. These are all from, folks still online. Did you have a favorite mom?

Kim Gravel: Yeah, I did. Angie for, her sassiness. Deb for her, hey dog. She was so hilarious. She could always make me laugh. Lee because she was so transparent.

She would just be like, I don't know what to do. I mean, they all were my favorites for different reasons. Do you actually hate clogging? Yes, let me say, I don't hate it that I hate the, I just, I just, I don't hate it in the fact that it's not a valid like competitions. I just don't think it should be a pageant talent.

Zac Miller: Okay. This one I got to give credit to and Madonna wrote. We all know you loathed clogging as a talent. But what talent in today's pageants would you say is as bad as clogging?

Kim Gravel: A spoken word spoken word. Okay. It's not my favorite, but I, but I just saw recently, I'll have to trump that, but spoken words are not my favorite.

I just saw a girl play the cups. Okay. She played cups like red solo cups. And that's a stretch for me. And she won Miss America with it. Just saying she played the cups on stage.

Zac Miller: The girl who won Miss America played the cups.

Kim Gravel: Yeah, it was many years ago. It was a couple of years ago, a few years back, but yeah, I just wouldn't be a fan of that.

Zac Miller: Okay, we got a ton of questions about Alexis. Basically they all boil down to, was she really that much of a diva, her and her mom?

Kim Gravel: Uh, yeah, but she wasn't, she wasn't rude. She wasn't rude. She, she was, I liked that kid. Tell you why I liked her. She had some kahunas. And see, let me tell you something.

Now she didn't have them bigger than me. Okay. But she had them. And I like seeing that. I like seeing a young woman we just had to get that molded a little bit. Yep. And her mom allowed it. That was the problem. All that was true.You know, you didn't see all the edits so that it looked amped up, you know, by the time they cut the scene.

Zac Miller: Reality TV is always like a much bigger version of the truth.

Kim Gravel: Yeah, totally. Right, but it wasn't, that was not a fake person. She's not fake with being that way, but you didn't see all the warm fuzzies in her too, right? All of us, you know, crying together and doing, you know, doing, you know. So you saw an edited version, but yeah, that, she's a diva.

But she, she, when we say diva, she was spoiled, but she wasn't, she was strong. And I liked that.

Zac Miller: Did she really get the modeling contract? That was another question we got a lot.

Kim Gravel: She did. Okay. She did. She got the modeling contract and she actually all those songs she wrote herself. I mean, she was a talented young woman.

Zac Miller: She was talented. She is super talented. Okay. What was your favorite episode?

Kim Gravel: Uh, it has to be one. Episode one. Addison. Okay. Addison. I'll tell you. I'll tell you why I'm gonna take full credit for it. If I may. I went down and trained some girls in Valdalia, Georgia in Angie. Actually, she was an Angie's dance class and I just trained her an interview and I thought, Lord, help this child is gold.

She's TV gold. And, I came back and insisted they, they look at her and cast her. And so I love all the girls, but I just thought Addison was, it was the first, it was the kickoff, you know, it was the first episode and it was one of my faves.

Zac Miller: Maddie Dalton nine asked, was Addison's accent real?

Kim Gravel: For sure.

100,000 percent go follow her on social media. She's still talking just like that.

Zac Miller: I was going to say, how do you fake that? Like, how do you get, you know, 11 year old or whatever to fake that? That would be next level.

Kim Gravel: Addison is a, Allisyn Addison is a person who truly just is who she is. And you got to love that.

Zac Miller: Okay. So were there any pranks done on set?

Kim Gravel: Oh my gosh. Yes. Tons. Tons. I'm a big prankster. So, one time I threw all their clothes on the floor and said that we'd been robbed. I mean, like, I've always tried to do stuff that get people's reaction. Yeah, I'm a big prankster. So there was many, many pranks on set.

Zac Miller: Okay. Couple more. What was the most shocking thing you learned about? Reality tv from being on it.

Kim Gravel: It's A lot of hard work and I don't know if it's even worth it. I mean without the message I mean, it's not worth the money and it's the mess if the message wasn't there for me. I probably would never do that again.

Zac Miller: Yeah, it's hard work.

It is. Whose transformation meant the most to you.

Kim Gravel: Oh god there was so many. Alexis was one of my favorites. Addison, of course. Yeah Gracie my little soccer player In all for different reasons, you know, I loved EJ my little bookworm. She was so confident. I love seeing that. I like seeing the transformations where there weren't typical pageant girls.

Zac Miller: That's what I was so special. Like, you took these girls that you would say would never, you know, didn't seem like they fit the mold and.

Kim Gravel: Yeah, but the mold is made to be broken. Every mold out there is made to be broken, and I, I didn't fit the mold either. And so for me, that has always been, my heart is to see people really achieve at being themselves.

So breaking the mold is, is, boy, that, don't challenge me, because I love the challenge.

Zac Miller: Um, okay, two more. Was the drama with Victoria Harris real?

Kim Gravel: No, I will tell you, it was with Allisyn because Allisyn's a very competitive person. Yeah, I am too, but you got to have competition to begin with. I can't, you know, it's gotta be a fair fight for me to be real competitive with another person.

But, Victoria is an amazing young woman and she was a great coach herself. Allisyn was all in with it. And Victoria was all in with it, but at the end of the day, you know, you have to compete with yourself. So, for me, it was not real for me. I was like, this is not even a fair fight.

Zac Miller: But it was fun.

It was fun for the show.

Kim Gravel: And it worked. But I liked her as a person. I loved her as a person. Like, I didn't, I mean, she was a little shady. Tricky Vicky. They called her Tricky Vicky. She was a little shady. But Allisyn was too. So, I let Allisyn deal with that because I'm like, Babe, I done been there and done this, got the crown, bought the t shirt, you know?

Zac Miller: When we were shooting the behind the scenes stuff, like, you know, a couple weeks ago, Allisyn was like, getting, her feathers were getting ruffled, she was watching those scenes, like, getting hot, and I was like, okay, we're, this is happening, like, what's gonna happen?

Kim Gravel: Well, let me just tell you come for my girls, you know, what I say, you mess with the bull, you gonna get the horns, you know what I'm saying?

Like, that's how I feel. Don't mess with the bull, then you ain't gonna have to get, you know, mess, you don't have to get the horns. That's how I say, like, with Vicki, I was like, all right, little girl, I'm older and bigger than you. Okay, my daddy always used to say, the bigger the butt cheeks, the sweeter the meat.

That's right, I'm sweet until I'm not.

Zac Miller: I love you so much. Okay, last one, and we're gonna go deep a little bit with this one. ThatEmilyGirl22 wrote, what called you to do the show? I'm so glad you made the show, of course, but inner motivation.

Kim Gravel: I want to see every woman, I say this all the time. I'm a girl's girl. I love the dudes too.

I have three men I live with. Okay. But let's just set them aside. Okay. I want to see every woman. I don't care her age, her status, her race, her anything. I don't care about any of that rise to their full potential. And you know why? Because I had to fight to do that for myself. I had a great mom and dad, very supportive, but even my own mother said, you ever went with Miss Georgia with that short hair?

Because everything in life conspires to get you to not believe in you. And look, I'm no savior. I know the savior, but I'm not a savior. And I'm not a perfect person. And I fought tooth and nail to have this show remain to the integrity of what the intent was. And it was to see every young girl when she's looking at that or watching the show and every mama, every, every woman looking at that going, you know what, I'm beautiful just as I am.

Could I be better? Can I work a little harder? Will I ever win a pageant? Maybe yes, no, whatever. But I can be the best me I can be and, and I can believe in what God created me to be. And that was my motivation. And you know what? I'm going to say to everybody right now, because the show is now airing on QVC Kim of Queens, and then stay tuned for Behind the Queens at the end of the show.

I'm going to say this, I'm a toot moan horn, toot toot. And we did our job because the show is still here and it's still motivating and still encouraging people today. So you know what? We're going to transform you. You're going to be a glamazon for what's over with.

Zac Miller: If you haven't watched the show, really give it a try.

I think if you listen to this podcast, you're, you're going to love it. I know I loved working on it. And meeting you and now we're here and it's led to so many great things and it's just it's amazing because like you said it was like this platform that launched so many other things.

Kim Gravel: It did and it's also it's also timeless and let me just tell you for all of you watching this and as you go over say I'm going to look at this chemical and see what it's all about keep in mind.

That you're fearfully and wonderfully made. There's only one of you in the world. God doesn't make any junk. And it doesn't matter where you've been or even where you're going. You can live the best possible confident life that you want to. All you got to do is take that first step. And maybe watching Kim of Queen's will inspire you to do just that.

And! And! You'll learn a few Southern sayings along the way!

Zac Miller: You will! Like this one.

Kim Gravel: It don't matter if you've got a perfect body or a perfect face. You've got your lips all glossed up. If something smart ain't coming through them, you hang it up. Amen. Amen. Done. Mic drop. Bye y'all.

Zac Miller: Bye everybody.

Enjoy, watching Kim of Queens.

Kim Gravel: And behind the queens. Don't forget that one.

Zac Miller: There you go. Kim, you're really lucky that I didn't have to use this sound effect. Boring.

I think I'm gonna leave that one on the board. So like, we're like interviewing a guest and then it's your voice. So it'll just be like they're talking and you'll just be like,

Kim Gravel: Boring. Just, that's it. Bye y'all. We gotta leave it right there. Right there.

Wow, you might have to cut some out. What's in your mouth? This is a, this is a lipstick. Oh, it came off my lipstick. I'm just trying to put a little.

Zac Miller: Oh my gosh. I was like, did you just spit out a tube? This is, this is behind the scenes. This is how, you know, the glamorous behind the scenes life.

Kim Gravel: This is lipstick that fell off of my lipstick.

And I thought, well, I'm not going to let this go to waste. I'm going on.

Zac Miller: There's a 100 percent chance this clip is going on the internet.

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