Stay Vibrant and Healthy as You Age with Joy Bauer

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Kim:

This episode is brought to you by your relaxing summer trip with your kids. Zac, there is nothing written in this script, and I know exactly why. Cause I get it. Because I know everybody listening to me all the time. Cause I'm always talking about my kids. I mean, yesterday, I just posted something on my instagram. I don't know if you saw it, Zac, but I posted where Blanton had broken into pieces a very, you know, price expensive lamp. I mean, dollar 45 for this lamp.

Kim:

I mean, he broke it in a million pieces, and then he went and stashed it into a. This corner of the sunroom so that I could not find it, which is like a flight down the steps. Okay, so I don't know why the lamp, how it got broken, and how it got downstairs, but I did a little Instagram video, and I just said, it's time to go back to school. And I say that, and people are like, I just enjoy the years, honey. Cause the years fly so fast. And you. Uh uh. And so when I go on vacation with the kids, it's impossible to have a relaxing trip, in my opinion.

Kim:

Do you find the same thing, Zac, or is it just.

Zac:

I just got back from a vacation with my kids, and I need a vacation from my vacation because it's just like, you know, you're wrangling these kids everywhere. They're out. You know, we had a time change, so it was, like, weird that just immediately, like, you're done if you're doing a, like, cross country time change.

Kim:

And didn't you go with your parents, too? So you went.

Zac:

Yeah, and I had my parents and I. So, yeah, it was a really fun trip. I don't want to get, like, a call from my mom who watches the show, and it's going to be like, what are you doing? What are you talking about? It was great, but it was not relaxing.

Kim:

It was not relaxing. Fun, but not relaxing. So this episode is brought to you by your summer not relaxing trip with your kids and family. Enjoy the show. We'll be right back.

Introduction:

This is The Kim Gravel Show..

Kim:

My guest today is one of the nation's leading health authorities. What are we supposed to look for on labels?

Joy Bauer:

There are only a few things you need to know.

Kim:

I want this episode to be, like, an easy to follow type guide for everybody who wants to live, like, healthier, lose some weight.

Joy Bauer:

My mission is to deliver all of the comfort foods that we love and crave, but in a joyful, healthified manner.

Kim:

Hallelujah. That makes me want to just slap myself.

Joy Bauer:

Okay, that is a celebrity crush. You are in for the ride of your life. It is the best, the best of the best of the best of the best and one of the best hacks I will ever tell anybody.

Kim:

Buckle up, buttercups. My guest today is one of the nation's leading health authorities. She's a registered dietitian, nutritionist. She's the health and nutrition expert on the NBC's Today show. She is a number one New York Times bestselling author with, y'all listen, 14 best selling books. And she has a new line of healthy products called joily. She, y'all. She's done so many things, but I think the whopper did.

Kim:

One of the biggest things she's ever done is she's been doing all of this by raising three kids. I brought her on the show today to give us some simple hacks and tricks for a losing weight and just boosting your overall health. Put your hands together and give a warm welcome to Joy Bauer. How do you like that, Joy?

Joy Bauer:

Okay, that might be my absolute new favorite intro ever.

Kim:

Does the Today show give you that? Probably.

Joy Bauer:

They do not. They do not. We do have a group of producers who do their own version of, like, it's some sort of girl power song, but instead they do like, oh, I like that. Girl power. But that took it to the next level. That was next level. Thank you.

Kim:

Joy, you need to tell everybody at the Today show, Zac and I are totally available, whatever they need, if they need a little boost.

Zac:

Okay, bring us on.

Kim:

We'll do it.

Joy Bauer:

Awesome. I want you first coming over to my house.

Kim:

Okay.

Joy Bauer:

Let's start here.

Kim:

I've been watching you for years, girl, on the Today show. Okay. And your health and happiness, you know, segments and when you were on the NBC Today show a few years ago, there was so many things I wanted to ask you. And I feel like now that we're in the over 50 and fabulous, like, we're kind of like best friends.

Joy Bauer:

We are.

Kim:

It's to the point. You've written so many books. I mean, here's some of your best selling books. I just want everybody. Cause just. Cause I'm telling you, I've read them. I love them. Slim and scrumptious.

Kim:

75 delicious, healthy meals your family will love. This is my favorite toy. From junk food to joy food. Hallelujah. That makes me want to just slap myself. Joy Bauer's food cures. Your most recent book is called Joy Bauer's Superfood. It has 150 recipes for internal youth.

Kim:

Girl, what are you doing? And you got three babies. What is going on?

Joy Bauer:

Look, it's kind of ironic that you are asking me that. We just. We get stuff done.

Kim:

Well, that's why I wanted you here. I want this episode to be like an easy to follow type guide for everybody who wants to live like, healthier, lose some weight, and I want to get, you know, I want them to be tangible, really applicable. Is that the right. Applicable?

Joy Bauer:

Yeah.

Kim:

To their lives. Look at me in my big words, joy. What is the biggest. I'm telling you, I'm getting smarter by doing this podcast. What is the biggest health mistake that you see people that regularly make? Wait, let me just, before you answer, just let you know, I just went through Dairy Queen and had a dipped cone go, you're real.

Joy Bauer:

And I love that. Can I just ask one question about the dipped cone? Is that the type with the magic shell on the outside?

Kim:

It's a dip cone. It's the soft serve. And then they take it and dip it and it gets hard and it starts melting. Cause, you know, it's 100,000 degrees here in the ATL and the humidity is like 750. And so the ice cream's melting. It's all over your face. So the answer is yes.

Joy Bauer:

Okay, so I am a version of you. That's another reason why I'm great for this field, because I love to eat and I love dairy Queen, and I love that magic shell outside. So what I do is I try to recreate these things in my kitchen in like, a joyful, healthified manner. So here's my way of enjoying exactly that. I pick up the no sugar added vanilla greek yogurts. There's a couple of brands that I love. We could talk offline, but I pick up the brands that are sweet with either monk fruit or stevia, and you still get that luscious vanilla flavor. Then I take one or two tablespoons of a semi sweet or dark chocolate chips, and I melt them in the microwave.

Joy Bauer:

God bless the microwave. Then I pour it over the top of the vanilla greek yogurt. I pop it into the fridge or the freezer for just about 2030 minutes. The chocolate firms. It becomes snappy, just like that magic shell cone that you were just describing. And then you plunk your spoon in. Crackle, crackle, crackle. Every single bite delivers that creamy, velvety vanilla greek yogurt packed with protein, packed with calcium.

Joy Bauer:

But you get the indulgent, snappy chocolate, too. It's really good.

Kim:

Okay, see, now I wish I could have gone through the drive thru and got that, but I have heard is greek yogurt is better for you because I've heard, like, normal yogurt has as much sugar as, like, an ice cream would. Is that true?

Joy Bauer:

So regular yogurt and greek yogurt can both have a slew of added sugar. So when it comes to whichever one you choose, the traditional yogurt or the greek yogurt, you just want to make sure that you're not. When you zip down on that ingredient list, don't look at total sugar because there's a lot of natural sugar just from the milk itself. You want to look at added sugar. And so you can either buy a plain version and doctor it up yourself with just a little bit of honey or maple sugar, a maple syrup, and then you're in control of how much you put in. Stick with a teaspoon. Or you could buy some of the flavored, but look to see the ones that don't have added sugar because that means that they're using either a monk fruit or a stevia. You don't want some of the other sweeteners, but the monk fruit and stevia right now have been, you know, like, perfectly safe.

Joy Bauer:

We don't have any bizarre studies with them. So those are the ones that I've been buying when it comes to greek yogurt. The reason greek yogurt is better than traditional yogurt is because it's strained and it's more dense in protein. So a regular yogurt will offer you, let's say, six or 7 grams of protein for the single serve container. But a greek yogurt can be about 15 grams of protein. So you're getting the same velvety, creamy eating experience, but your body is getting more protein, which means that you're going to feel fuller for longer and you're going to be able to steady your blood sugars.

Kim:

Well, you know, I feel like so many products are pretending to be healthy, but they aren't. And, you know, I'm always looking for things on the label. Half the time, I don't even know what I'm looking for. Joy, to be honest with you. What do you look for in a label when you are shopping? Because, look, I have lost recently, over the past year and a half, 50 pounds. So, like, I am the best version of myself that I have been in a long time. And I started, I started counting calories. I know.

Kim:

Thank you, Joy.

Joy Bauer:

And it's been a journey that is a huge accomplishment.

Kim:

It was. But I tell you, now, my son and both my boys are starting to get not there. I mean, they're young, they're amazing, they're fit, they're athletic, but they're starting to look at labels, too. What are we supposed to look for on labels when we're shopping and our desires to eat healthy?

Joy Bauer:

Yeah, it is overwhelming. And by the way, it's not just overwhelming for non health practitioners, it's overwhelming for registered dietitians and nutritionists who do this for a living. There are so many numbers. So the first thing I would tell you is, like, use your common sense. I think most of us know what is healthy and what is not healthy. And so when you're a bit confused or when you know something should be healthy and you're not 100% sure and you're comparing brands, you want to flip it over. You want to first look at the ingredient list. You want to see things that are recognizable.

Joy Bauer:

You know, the shorter the list, the better. But just make sure that you recognize things, because if there's, like a lot of Frankenstein, like, you know, ingredients within there, it's probably not the best thing for you. Thing is, when you list things on the ingredient, it's by weight. The order in which things are listed will be by weight. So you want to. You don't want to see sugar first. You don't want to see high fructose corn syrup first. You don't want to see white flour first.

Joy Bauer:

So in the perfect world, it will be oats or whole wheat flour or fresh fruit or vegetables. So the things that are heftiest, volume and weight will come at the very beginning. When you look at all the numbers, there are only a few things you need to know. The first thing that's very important is right at the tippy top, it will say what the serving size looks like. And the reason that that is so important is because if it says a serving size as half a cup. Let's talk about ice cream for a minute. You're getting a pint. A pint has two full cups.

Joy Bauer:

In a pint, if the serving size says half a cup, that means that every single number underneath it, calories, saturated fat, added sugar, sodium, is going to be multiplied by four if you are eating the whole pint. And a lot of us do that, right? Let's be honest.

Kim:

No judgment. No.

Joy Bauer:

No judgment ever. And so the very first thing is, what is that? Portion size. And then when you look at the portion size, then you look at calories. Can I handle this amount of calories? Number one, everybody says nowadays they're not counting calories. It's sort of like archaic in the past. Truth be told, everybody is still counting calories.

Kim:

It works for me, joy. It worked for me. It totally worked for me.

Joy Bauer:

I get it. And so then you look at the calories and the second thing that you want to be able to look at is the saturated fat. We don't care about the total fat. We don't care about the unsaturated fat, because we now know that heart healthy unsaturated fat is actually good for you. Right? It helps clean the pipes, it helps make things taste good, it helps keep our blood sugars steady. Saturated fat is a different story. That's the artery clogging type of fat. So if something is predominant in saturated fat and that, like ice cream, unfortunately would fall under that category, baked goods can be high in saturated fat.

Joy Bauer:

And so that's a number that the lower the better. The same thing with added sugar. So just like fat, fat has a whole category, total fat, unsaturated fat, we don't care about that, but we do care about the sub head saturated fat. Sugar kind of does the same thing. There's a total sugar, which we don't necessarily care about because fresh fruits and fresh vegetables, those dairy that brings some natural sugar to the table and it's packaged with healthful nutrients. But the added sugar you do want to look at. And like the saturated fat, less is more, the lower that you can get. And the last thing I would tell people to look at is sodium.

Joy Bauer:

You know, after the age of 50, I think it's almost one out of two people start to deal with high blood pressure. And sodium, aka salt, will make a big difference because salt draws water into our arteries, which increases the volume of fluid in our arteries, which means it's going to increase the pressure within our blood vessels. So the lower the salt, the better that we're eating. And we love salt, so just be mindful of that. Those are the things that you really have to look at on a label.

Kim:

Well, look, can you, can you give us like a mini consultation? Like someone say, someone comes to you say it's me, and I say, joy, I want to lose weight. What are some of the questions that you're asking me to kind of diagnose, not diagnose or help me with this consultation? And also I wonder, what are you thinking about this new weight loss in the new reality of these weight loss drugs like ozempic and wiggupi?

Joy Bauer:

So it's an amazing question that you just asked me and you posed. It's a gigantic one because there's no. One size fits all, but I can definitely give everybody food for thought. So they could almost become their own nutritionist. Great. The first thing I'm going to say in terms of the weight loss drugs, I think they're revolutionary. I really do, because a lot of people are food addicts and they are compulsive overeaters, and they're walking around for years and years and years with so much noise in their head. And what this does is it sort of eases that noise and it allows people to make food less of a focus.

Joy Bauer:

It doesn't take away the energy and effort that they have to put in and should put in from making the right choices because you still want to have energizing fuel that you nourish your body with so that you thrive. They're not going to be the end all, be all, but they are incredibly helpful. And I think that they could be life changing for people. And so right now, the good news on the weight loss drugs is that many of the pharmaceutical companies right now are scrambling to come up with bigger and better. And because there's going to be so many more on the market, this makes me very happy. I think it's going to drive down the prices and it's going to increase the accessibility of these weight loss drugs. So people that maybe right now can't afford them or can't get access to them, they're going to be in a very different place. But it doesn't mean these drugs are not for people who have to lose five or ten or 20 pounds.

Joy Bauer:

These are people who really struggle with obesity, people who are struggling with secondary symptoms because of weight, whether it be heart disease or type two diabetes or debilitating back pain. Like, those are the people that are really, really great candidates for them. So that's my take on the weight loss drugs. I thank God for bringing them to the world because I think that they already are and they will change a lot of lives in terms of helping people to be their own nutritionist. This is what you have to do. The very first and most significant thing anybody can do to gain huge success is to take a few minutes and come up with your reason for wanting to start a health journey and then stick with a health journey. And it's got to be personal endurance and enduring and significant. It can't be because I want to fit into my little hot black dress or because I have, you know, a reunion coming up and I want to show everybody that, like, I still have it going on.

Kim:

Joey, hold on. I want to say because I think this is a brilliant thing. You just said, we have to park on this for a hot minute because you're saying there's got to be a why. You've got. It's got to be a good reason. Why is that? I mean, is there scientific research behind that to back that up? I mean, what. What is it? Like, why do you say you've got to have a good reason?

Joy Bauer:

Because losing weight and then keeping that weight off is 50% attitude. I think everybody listening.

Kim:

But, see, that's why I lost weight. Joy, I'm telling you, I'm so glad you're saying this. Everybody kept saying, kim, how'd you lose height? And I said, I decided I changed my way of thinking. And I said, cause, I mean, there's joy, there's Kajillion weight loss drugs, keto. There's so many different ways and so many different programs. The information is out there for numerous ways to get healthy and lose weight. But I had just made up in my mind, I'm done. I'm doing this.

Kim:

I'm doing it for me. I'm doing it for my, you know, I was pre diabetic. I said, I'm doing it for all of those things. So you're giving me validation here. That's why not to make it about me, y'all. But I'm just saying, I think this is an important thing.

Joy Bauer:

You're the living proof. And I'm gonna tell you, out of, like, the billions, tens of thousands of people that I've worked with, it has nothing started and stuck until their head was in the game? And for the right reasons. And for the right reasons. Following a health plan, like you said, it's not rocket science. We know what we should be eating and what we shouldn't be eating. But in order to feel motivated and to have continuous inspiration, your head has to be in the game. So the best thing that everybody could do is to take pen to paper and figure out what is your reason. Is it because there's breast cancer in the family, and you want to make sure that you are healthy and moving forward in a way so that you don't fall into this trap? Is it because you want to be able to be comfortable in your own skin and get on the ground and play with your kids and your grandkids? These are significant reasons, and everybody has to have their reason.

Joy Bauer:

And by the way, once you have your reason, and your reason can change from time to time. But you need to. Need to put it on your computer. You need to put it on post it notes, on your bathroom vanity, on the refrigerator, on all of the places that you see it front and center over and over again, because that is your driving force for getting to the finish line. It is a powerful, powerful motivator. So I love that you have lived it well.

Kim:

And how do you get that mindset for weight loss? Like, I don't. I don't know. I can't. I mean, I can't remember back. It was not this past April, but the April before is when I started. I can't remember. Like, you know, I didn't read a book or I didn't, whatever. I think I just looked in the mirror and just was like, bump it.

Kim:

I'm done. But is there a way to really set your mind up for this journey of weight loss? How do you change your mindset?

Joy Bauer:

Well, because there's a desire there, you know, if people are listening and they are not feeling comfortable in their skin right now or they're sick and tired of, like, opening their closet and seeing all the beautiful clothes that they bought from you and, like, only the size to the right fits and they can't wear anything to the size to the left. Like, I mean, that that is enough. You know, it's frustration, it's low energy. It's your doctor telling you that you have to go on statins because you high cholesterol. There are all of these red flags that are bringing you to a place that, you know, you would feel better and have more energy and think more clearly and be more comfortable if you were to lose weight. And by the way, too, I love the big goals. I need to lose 50 pounds. I need to lose 75 pounds, 100 pounds, but they are overwhelming.

Joy Bauer:

So don't put a number on your weight loss. And if you do want to put a number on your weight loss, break it down into five or ten pound intervals, because when it's overwhelming and it just feels like something that is not achievable, it's not good for anyone. It really isn't. And those small amounts add up quickly. And all of a sudden, what started out as five pounds and eight pounds and twelve pounds and 20 pounds, and suddenly you've hit the hundred pound mark. It happens. I know it happens. And you don't need medication for it.

Kim:

Well, you know, because weight fluctuates up and down. And if you're on the scale every day, multiple times a day, I mean, I remember going, getting on the scale two days after I started, I put on weight. You know, I'm saying, like, it's. What's that? What if you get your mindset right? Okay, then what do you recommend they focus on? So we're going to get our mindset correct. We got to, we got to know our why and we got to be motivated for that why. What do you recommend we focus on to start that weight loss journey?

Joy Bauer:

A few simple things that have huge impact. The first is, you know, we talked about, you know, I love the big goals. I absolutely love them. But, and everyone should have their big goals. I want to run the New York City marathon. I want to lose 50 or 100 pounds. But it is the smaller weekly goals that will keep you on the straight and narrow because they're achievable, they're attainable. They allow you to give yourself a high five or a pat on the back, a great big smile.

Kim:

Small wins. Small wins.

Joy Bauer:

Yes. And that's going to be your continuous fuel to continue to keep going and eventually hit your big goal. So I would say again, pen to paper or set up an excel sheet on your computer. And every single week, make yourself at least one goal. Hey, if you're extra motivated, make yourself two goals. And they could be something like, every day I'm going to walk for 30 minutes or every day as a snack, I'm going to have a handful of nuts, I'm going to have a piece of fresh fruit. It doesn't matter what it is. It could be.

Joy Bauer:

I would love if everybody would say, every week I'm going to make at least two of joy's new healthy recipes. Like, it doesn't matter what it is, but set those weekly goals. And hey, if you're extra motivated, make them daily goals. They are additive and they are going to pay off huge. That would be the first thing. The second thing I would say is incorporate a produce item, specifically vegetables, if you can, into every single meal. And here's why. Vegetables are high in volume and they're low in calories and they fill us up instead of filling us out.

Joy Bauer:

So I love the thought of adding something to the menu versus taking it away. I'm not even going to take away your, you know, the ice cream cone with the chocolate covering that you did at Dairy Queen, but I think you join.

Kim:

Thank you, joy.

Joy Bauer:

Ever, ever. I'm an additive girl, so if you could jam in vegetables to every single meal, you will be so far ahead of the game. And even though I talked about the high in volume and low in calories, let's talk about something else. Vegetables are most importantly loaded with the good stuff, vitamins minerals, antioxidants, and fiber. So they keep us running on all cylinders. They reduce the risk of all sorts of disease states. They help us thrive in every level. By the way, they're great for brain health and heart health.

Joy Bauer:

So they check all the boxes, and there's very easy ways that you could do it. If you're making eggs in the morning, chop up a tomato and maybe some mushrooms or onion and just add it into the pan and scramble it all up. With lunch, you could have the most gorgeous rainbow salad. Or if you're a sandwich girl, lift up that top layer of bread and do a little bit more than lame lettuce leaves. You could do thin sliced cucumbers, red onion, roasted peppers. Make the vegetables as fat as the meat on that sandwich. And then you have double the volume, which I love. And then on the side, you could have crunchy baby carrots, or you could have bell pepper sticks or sugar snap peas.

Joy Bauer:

I love sugar snap peas inside. And then you have the crunch instead of chips, you're having more vegetables. And then with dinner, there's a bazillion ideas, right? You could do sheet pans of roasted vegetables. You could do stir fries on the skillet. You know, you could do frittatas for dinner in the summer. I love breakfast for dinner in the summer. But there's so many things that you could do for dinner. Sauteed spinach.

Joy Bauer:

I love, I love artichoke hearts.

Kim:

Obviously, I'm getting hungry.

Joy Bauer:

Brussels sprouts, all of the good stuff. But if you incorporate a produce item, specifically vegetables, into all of your meals, I'm telling you, you will be adding flavor, you will be adding nutrition, but it's going to help you lose weight. That's a good one.

Kim:

Is that why you wrote your cookbooks like slim and scrumptious? Is it because you wanted to give people, you know, different ways of eating healthy and yummy at the same time?

Joy Bauer:

Yeah. So my mission is to deliver all of the comfort foods that we love and crave. Macaroni and cheese, chocolate cakes and pies, buffalo wings. Like, I love all of that stuff, too, but in a joyful, healthified manner. Like, for example, I mentioned Mac and cheese. So I make a version that's with butternut squash. You know, there are all of these very simple things that you could do, even buffalo, buffalo chicken or buffalo wings. I'll do it with tenderloins, skinless tenderloins instead of the wings, which are, I think, more skin than they are actually protein meat.

Joy Bauer:

I also do it with cauliflower so there's. So I even do buffalo vegetables. There's so many ways that you can get that same craving. I do a version of snickers. I swear, Kim, it tastes just like snickers using dates. I take a date, I split it in half. I remove the pit. I do a spread of creamy peanut butter.

Joy Bauer:

Then for the crunch, I'll do two on top of the peanut butter, two roasted peanuts. And then I close it up and I drizzle some semi sweet melted chocolate over the top. I put it in the fridge, and the chocolate firms, like I talked about earlier with the magic shell. And then you bite into. I do do a sprinkling of crushed peanuts on top just to take it over the edge. And I do you want to do a number of them at the same time because you're not going to want to stop at one. And you take a bite and you get all of the layers of texture, the chewy, sweet, caramel like flavor from the dates. Then you get that creamy, savory goodness from the peanut butter, the crunch from the peanuts, and the indulgence from the chocolate.

Joy Bauer:

It's a snickers. It's a Snickers.

Kim:

Is that recipe in your book?

Joy Bauer:

It's not in my books, but it's on my instagram and it's on my website. It's on my website.

Kim:

Okay. You gotta go on a website.

Joy Bauer:

These are all on my website. I do, like, a chocolate shake without any chocolate. I do it with cocoa powder. And I swear, you close your eyes and you're sipping a thick chocolate shake. It's all of these easy tweaks that people can do. This is what I love most. I love creating in my kitchen ways that we can indulge and have the foods that we're actually craving, but in a nourishing way that there's no regret, there's no guilt. It's all good for you.

Joy Bauer:

Ingredients.

Kim:

Okay, we gotta take a quick break, but while we're doing that, y'all go hit up joybauer.com. check out these recipes. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, more healthy tips with joy right after this. Oh, my gosh, y'all, we are back, and I'm still on the date nut caramel snicker doodle thing. Joy. But this is the thing. This is the thing.

Kim:

This is what I love about what you're doing. You're saying no sacrifice, but we don't have to sacrifice our health either. We don't have to sacrifice our love of food. But you had said something earlier about food noise. And first of all, I don't know how you can live in the United States of America and not have food noise. My kids, now, I'll go into my office. I have a home office, Joy. And I have a big computer, and I'll get on the computer and in the morning, and my kids have been in my computer at my desk, and my youngest is watching all of these food videos.

Kim:

Okay? Like, it's beyond food noise. It's like. It's like food and bad food that are coming for them.

Joy Bauer:

Food pornhood.

Kim:

Food porn.

Joy Bauer:

That's what it is. It's food porn.

Kim:

I'm telling you. It's like. It's like this food noise. I mean, not only will you have it in your head, but it's like. It's like it's everywhere. What can we do specifically about that? And what do the weight loss drugs do to drown that out? And what can we do if we're not on that, to drown it out or to, I don't know, reduce it? Reduce the noise.

Joy Bauer:

So I think that we all can use it as an opportunity for something super positive. And I see this as a real learning curve for your sons as well. You can use that interest in the food porn, so to speak, and you could turn it into lessons in the kitchen. Like, for example, if they're watching something about nachos, there's a way that you could build nachos. One of my most favorite recipes ever is I created bell pepper nachos, so you could make nachos on quartered bell peppers. And bell peppers are loaded with vitamin C, which is great for the immune system. It can help reduce aches and pains associated with arthritis. So there's.

Joy Bauer:

What I would say is, take this as an opportunity to figure out a way yourself in the kitchen to satisfy that craving to connect with the food and to teach your boys and our kids and our grandkids how to make these things in a way that not only tastes amazingly delicious, but it's also good for them and for us, because this is a way. Having a skill set, if your boys have a skill set. My kids, I have three kids. I have four now because my older daughter just got married. But if you are able, like I am, to show your kids how to actually be crafty in the kitchen, let me tell you something. It's a skill set that they will take for them for the rest of their lives. It is a blessing for them to be able to know how to make healthy food so like, bring, bring on all of these food videos and stuff, but then flip it upside down and figure out a way to turn it into a positive, because your boys are interested in food and, you know, they're not only interested in eating it, they're drawn to, like, watching it. And the videos are showing how to make it.

Joy Bauer:

I could show you how to make a two ingredient chocolate piece of two ingredients that I think they'll really flip over. So find the foods that they're most interested in. And I'm telling you offline, I'm going to send you links to all of these foods, and you're going to show me you and the boys making them in the kitchen together. And then they'll weigh in.

Kim:

Yes. You've got to. You've got to send me the link. Okay. You know, I'm going to ask you the obvious question. What is the two ingredient chocolate pie?

Joy Bauer:

So it's. Well, I have two different versions of it. So the two ingredient chocolate pie is with unsweetened applesauce and semi sweet melted chocolate chips. And then I have another version that I do instead of the applesauce with canned pumpkin puree.

Kim:

Dang.

Joy Bauer:

So, so easy. I don't want to spend hours in the kitchen, and I don't want anybody else spending hours in the kitchen. So my recipes are easy peasy.

Kim:

Okay. All right. I'm gonna try that sugar free applesauce and what you say.

Joy Bauer:

Chocolate chips. Melted chocolate chips. And I could show everybody how to melt the chocolate chips. Listen, if you are a gourmet and you want to do it using a double boiler on the stovetop, amazing. But I like to do it in the microwave because it's super simple and one of the best hacks I will ever tell anybody because there's nothing worse than having to clean a bowl that has melted chocolate chips. Take your nonstick cooking spray, and before you add your chips to the bowl that you're going to microwave, give it a spritzen and then add the chocolate chips. And then when you go to clean the bowl, it's much more seamless. I'm going to give you all of these links.

Joy Bauer:

You guys could put the links.

Zac:

We'll put the link. Yeah, we'll put the links in the show notes. We'll put it on our website kimgravelshow.com let me just.

Kim:

Tell you, nonstick spray. I'm thinking about, like, spraying on my kids bed sheets, the toilet, everything. But it's like nonstick spray will make anything not stick. I agree with you on that.

Joy Bauer:

Isn't that so? You know what it reminds me of? What was the spray in my big fat greek wedding? She sprayed it on everything. Windex.

Kim:

Windex.

Joy Bauer:

It's like the home chef's version of Windex. It is.

Kim:

I'm telling you. I just. I just. First of all, I'm making the chocolate pie. I'm making that. But anyway, let's talk about, like, your products and what you've got coming up and. And everything that's coming down the pike for you, Joy, because we are both at QVC. We are over 50.

Kim:

And fabulous ambassadors in the age of possibility. I can't believe you're over 50. Remember, we were in the same small group, and I was like, this woman is 50 years. I never knew watching you on the Today show, you know, tell me how that is for you right now. Don't you like, how old are your kids? And are you living your best life and all of that good stuff? Speak to us women over 50 here out there.

Joy Bauer:

Okay, Kim, you are like a young end to me. Let's be clear. I am 60, okay? I just turned 60. I'm in a whole. I'm a whole new decade. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Kim:

You're in the 60. You're in the 60 and sexy group. That's where you are.

Joy Bauer:

Oh, well, in my mind, at least in my mind, no, you are. You are. I think you would agree, and I think everybody that's in the 50 plus category would agree. It. It's really a beautiful, beautiful sorority to be in. I think that you come to a place where you don't, you don't sweat the small stuff. I think you tell yourself that as you're growing up, but, like, once you hit 50 and over, we're actually there. I think that I am healthier in so many ways.

Joy Bauer:

Definitely. Physically, emotionally, I'm calmer. I'm more zen. I don't overreact to so many things like I used to. I just. I feel like I'm the better and I. New and improved version of my twenties. I really do.

Joy Bauer:

My kids are growing right now, so. You have little kids. How old are your boys?

Kim:

They're 17 and 15, so they're still little to me.

Joy Bauer:

Little ish. So you're, like, heading into the college application error. Ooh, eek, eek.

Kim:

And I'll be 53 next this Saturday. So, like, we started late, but, hey, I'm not complaining.

Joy Bauer:

They're keeping a shine, your child. And what I'll tell you is I'm paving the way, and it just keeps getting better and better and better and better. And it also goes back to everything that I do in my neck of the woods. It is so darn important to take care of yourself because we want to age with grace. And so make sure that everybody listening. You want to take care of your weight. You want to fuel yourself with the right stuff. You want to make sure that you're walking or exercising at least 30 minutes a day, because you, you don't want to just grow old.

Joy Bauer:

You want to grow old with oomph and vigor and vitality. And this is the way to do it.

Kim:

Now, let's talk about Joy Lee, because you have a multivitamin for women over 50, and you also have a yummy muffin mix, right? Like, tell us about what products you're making for us over 50 and fabulous women out there.

Joy Bauer:

This is so exciting to me. Thank you so much for asking. So the Joy Lee actually started as a passion project. I'll start with the multivitamin. There's so many great brands out there. And Kim, I would always pick up the bottles and I would say, oh, you know, this brand is so great, but I wish it had this or that. Or I wish, like, the magnesium was a different format, or I wish they would have added ashwagandha or something like that. And so I set out to make a very, very small batch of a multivitamin for my friends and family that are 50 plus.

Joy Bauer:

It's a very specific for the 50 plus crowd with all of the perfect formulations and amounts of the things that I wanted in it. And it was going to be this small, little 100 bottle batch, and I was going to be able to do, you know, like a subscribe, like a monthly sort of a thing. But I was going to do a very, very small run. And then as I started to make it, it was one of those things. My heart started to race, and I loved where we were going, and I thought, you know what? I'm just going to open it up. So I've been working on it on the last year. I have, like, the smartest scientists on board. It is literally my dream formulation.

Joy Bauer:

It's one stop shopping for men and women after 50, men do not need a different formula. We're all in this together. I have the right ingredients in for eye health to reduce the risk of macular degeneration and cataracts. I have everything to make us thrive in every which direction. So it's launching in about a month. I've been working on it for the last year. People can go to joy. It's bejoylee.com.

Joy Bauer:

b e j o y l dash y.com. you could sign up to be on the waiting list and everybody will get a big blast when it does finally launch. And so the same thing with the protein muffins. Again, I was making the protein muffins from scratch. And friends and family and also everybody on social media was constantly saying, come out with a mix. We don't want to make it ourselves.

Kim:

It's hard. I agree with that. I agree with that.

Joy Bauer:

So I made, again, working on it for over a year. So I have this mix I'm coming out with as a starter, vanilla and chocolate. So it's packed with protein. They're low in calories. They're only 140 calories. They're big, moist, delicious, comfort food feel muffins. And there was not a drop of added sugar, but you will think it's sweet and sugary, just like the bakery muffins that you buy. And the other cool thing is, even though I'm coming out with just chocolate and vanilla, I did it so that you could take these two flavors in so many different personality flavor directions.

Joy Bauer:

So if you mash banana in the vanilla, it's a banana muffin. If you add chocolate chips in the chocolate, it's a double chocolate chip chocolate, you could add peanut butter. For a chocolate peanut butter muffin, you could add fresh blueberries into the chocolate or the vanilla. So there's a lot of different directions that you could take it. But I think you're going to love it, and I can't wait to send you a couple of boxes.

Kim:

Oh, you've got to get me some boxes. You know I love to eat. All right, Joy, before you go, I could talk to you all day about this stuff because I'm just obsessed with you and your vigor and your fire and passion for this. But. But before I let you go, I have to do what I do with every single yes girl rapid fire questions. What comes up, comes out. So I'm going to ask you a question. Don't even think about it.

Kim:

Just go. Blah. First thing comes to your mind. Okay. All right, here we go. Your best summer recipe, a no added sugar slushy. Oh, I love a good slushy.

Joy Bauer:

Oh, my God, it's so good. Could I in a rapid fire in my last video?

Kim:

Yes.

Joy Bauer:

Okay. This is what you're going to do. You're going to take two cups of frozen, pitted cherries. Don't put them yourself. Go right to the grocery store, buy a bag of pitted frozen cherries. Mix it with a half a cup of frozen pineapple chunks and then a can of berry flavored sparkling water. Roll it up in your blender, and you have the thickest, most delicious, fruitiest cherry slushie, no sugar added, filled with antioxidants.

Kim:

Yum.

Zac:

My kids would love to get one.

Kim:

I'm gonna do that.

Joy Bauer:

Yeah, it's a good one.

Kim:

Okay, Zac, that's your summer snack, right now.

Zac:

I took notes. I'm gonna buy it. All right now.

Kim:

Awesome. What is your favorite. What is your favorite kitchen gadget?

Joy Bauer:

All my onion goggles. They're little goggles. You put them on, and then you don't cry when you slice an onion.

Kim:

Can I just tell you, my oldest son could eat a raw onion just like you eat an apple. I mean, he loves onions and is unfazed. I'm like, you're cutting the onions, brother. I mean, like, he is an onion freak.

Joy Bauer:

He's like the Grinch.

Kim:

Literally. He's 17, so, literally. Joy, you have boys, right? You have boysenhe.

Joy Bauer:

I have one boy, and I have two girls. But now I have a son in law, so I kind of have two boys and two girls.

Kim:

Boys are a hot mess as teenagers. Would you agree?

Joy Bauer:

Even you haven't had girls, Kim, by.

Zac:

The way, it's two girls.

Joy Bauer:

Joy, I've seen boys are the easy ones.

Kim:

Oh, lord have mercy. Then God knew exactly what he was doing. But giving me boys, because my boysenhe, they take me around and around. Okay, what song do you always sing when you hear it?

Joy Bauer:

Thunder road by Bruce Springsteen. Ooh. The screen door slammed. Mary's dress waves like a vision. She dances across the porch as the radio plays. And so off key that it would make the static hairs on your arms stand up.

Kim:

Joy, that is bravo that you just knew that. I mean, most people would be like, uh, what? You know, uh, uh. Okay, what is one fortune you would write from your fortune cook cookie. And what would it be?

Joy Bauer:

Health and happiness to my immediate family and my extended family. Because that. The reason I say that is because every time I have the opportunity to blow out a candle or I have an eyelash that falls on my face, it's the automatic pilot wish in the moment that I always have to go for. So I don't know if that's necessarily a fortune, but I could imagine it would say, you will have health and happiness, your immediate family, and your entire extended family. And obviously, all of my friends and my people are in my extended family.

Kim:

Okay, well, that's. Yeah. I mean, it just goes on and on and on. It's like a prophecy. Okay, here we go. If you could spend a million dollars right now on anything, what would it be?

Joy Bauer:

It would be a tie. It would be something for me. And that would be a massive, massive global food kitchen for people.

Kim:

Yes.

Joy Bauer:

So that one would be for me and the other one would be for my husband, who is the better half of the couple. And it would be a massive dog rescue.

Kim:

So it's a give back. It's not just for you, it's for you and theme and everybody.

Joy Bauer:

Oh, that. Those would be like the number one and the number two, and it would be a tie and we would have to, like, fight it out. So it probably would be like the 500,500 thousand would get split between the two. So I wouldn't be able to do the global soup kitchen, but I would be able to at least pick a bunch of states that needed it the most.

Kim:

I like that. Who is your favorite anchor personality on the Today show?

Joy Bauer:

Okay. That's like asking me who my favorite child is. I'm just gonna have to zip it up. But I will tell you that. I will tell you that if you could imagine, I have fallen on my butt, off of my high heels two times on national television, 14 million people watching. And one of those times, I took down Al Roku. And being the greatest sport that he is, he's still one of my absolute, absolute favorite people in the whole entire world.

Kim:

That's good. That's good. So, I mean, he's one of the many there, but that's like one that you have a shot.

Joy Bauer:

Absolutely.

Kim:

See how appropriate you are with that? That's good. What do you consider your biggest win?

Joy Bauer:

My kids. My greatest accomplishment in life, bar none, without even giving it a thought, my three kids, they just surprised me and melt my heart every single day, even when they're having bad days.

Kim:

Are you on the other side of adult kids? Are you? Did you feel that way in the throes of motherhood? Like when you were grinding it out every day and all the sports and all the stuff? Because Zac and I have our younger kids right now, and we are really, a, jealous and b, hopefully that you're going to tell us that you struggle, too, and we're going to feel the same way in a few years.

Joy Bauer:

I went through all the struggles. I went through all of the challenges. But I think all of us intellectually, even through the messy chaos that we're dealing with, that you all are dealing with right now, we can still say the same thing. I think, like, you have to compartmentalize. You got to put the day to day aside and just think about how blessed and grateful and lucky we are that we made these incredible humans. And I'm going to tell everyone, being on the other side and having adult kids, you are in for the ride of your life. It is the best. The best of the best of the best of the best.

Kim:

Zac, are you listening to this? Are you okay? We got to keep the faith, baby. We got to keep the hope and faith.

Zac:

Look, I got the faith, baby. Let's just, like, the faith.

Joy Bauer:

It's happening. Zac and Kim, I say this so confidently. I mean, I have a lot of balls to say that with so much confidence.

Kim:

You really do.

Joy Bauer:

And that's how positive I am.

Kim:

Well, this is the thing. Like, it's so great because you're like, oh, my gosh. Wish they'd go to school. When they go to school. Oh, my gosh. Why are they going to school? I mean, it's crazy. I think parenthood, especially motherhood in particular, we're a little bit like multiple personality disorder. A little bit.

Kim:

Yeah.

Joy Bauer:

But in the best. In the best way ever.

Kim:

The best kind of psychotic, beautiful way. Yeah.

Joy Bauer:

We're chameleons. And by the way, I was. I was the one during the soccer games. Here I am, like, demure and well spoken and put together on the tv show. A raving lunatic.

Kim:

Lunatic. Screaming. Screaming at the coach.

Joy Bauer:

Screaming at my daughters. Yes. Yes.

Kim:

So, like, yeah, I scream stuff that I don't even know what I'm talking about. Like. Like, some of the team members, my son and some of his teammates will look like going, what is she saying? That's not even what you're saying. We don't know.

Joy Bauer:

We don't know, but it just flows out of our mouth. Yeah.

Kim:

And let me. Let me tell you something. Well, I had a little coach kind of said, boy, don't you talk to me. Now. I'm old enough to be your mother. You better shut it down. He says, yes, Miss Grill. Yes, ma'am.

Kim:

Miss Mama raps on the side, like, miss, I don't ma'am me. I'll do what I want to do. I'm 50 something years old. I'll say what I mean to say.

Joy Bauer:

I love you again. It's all about the age. Like, we have arrived. We're here.

Kim:

We have arrived, and we're gonna be hurt. We will cut you.

Joy Bauer:

We will cut you with a sharp knife, with.

Kim:

I'll have that little spoon. Okay, here we go. What is your. Who is your celebrity crush? Mm hmm. Now, please make it very frivolous and totally just physicality. Just don't do any. Some high brow thing. Give me something.

Kim:

Just like the bachelor from 19. Whatever. Okay.

Joy Bauer:

So my celebrity crush was always growing up. I'm going to go back to when I was a kid. David Cassidy and. David Cassidy and Cam, you're going to be so jealous when I tell you this one. Not only was my celebrity crush as a kid, and maybe, like, moving forward a little bit into my years as well, David Cassidy, a little bit now.

Kim:

Ok.

Joy Bauer:

I had the opportunity years and years ago in the Today show green room to give him a great big kiss.

Kim:

On the lips or the lips on the lips.

Joy Bauer:

Like a big, great big hugger. Yep, yep. Happily married. My husband was so proud of me.

Kim:

He's like, go for it, baby. Go for it, baby. Now, I had a Sean Cassidy poster and Donnie Osmond and Andy Gillenore. Yes, I went there. Yes, I went there with Andy Gibbs. And do you remember Sean Cassidy's hair? Remember he had, like, the look?

Joy Bauer:

Okay, Donnie Osmond. Go away, little girl. Do you remember that song?

Kim:

Yes, ma'am. Joy, we are so over 50 and fabulous. All right, here we go. Poor Zac is like, who's Donnie Osmond? Anyway, here we go.

Zac:

I don't relate to that at all, but I loved it.

Kim:

Do you know Sean Cassidy, though?

Zac:

I know who shot assumed he is. I mean, I couldn't tell you anything about him.

Kim:

Andy Gibb.

Zac:

No, I don't know. I've never heard that name before in my life.

Joy Bauer:

Zac, do you know who Tony Zac. Do you know Tony Orlando? And is it called Tony Orlando? Do you know that song, Ty?

Kim:

Yellow ribbon, ribbon Roundy?

Joy Bauer:

It's been three long years.

Kim:

Long years.

Zac:

I'm just gonna back out of the recording.

Joy Bauer:

Still want me?

Kim:

You know what? You know what, you millennials, okay? You gotta get up here with us Gen Xers.

Joy Bauer:

I think I'm a baby boomer. Am I a baby boomer?

Kim:

You're not a boomer. No, not a boomer. What? No, you're not a boomer.

Joy Bauer:

I just turned 60. I'm not sure.

Kim:

Okay, you're not a boomer. No, you're right. You're on the cusp, okay? If you knew Madonna rolling on the floor like a virgin on MTV, you are not a boomer.

Joy Bauer:

Madonna.

Kim:

Yes, I had the bracelets. Okay, here we go. Last question. Second to last question. And please make it again. I'm so proud of you. Because most people who do their celebrity crush they go really highbrow. You really took it.

Kim:

You took it.

Joy Bauer:

Real George Clooney.

Kim:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We want somebody that.

Zac:

Somebody that you made Ryan Reynolds. Let's just say nothing against George.

Kim:

George, we love you. Call me. I'm just saying we wanted somebody you made out with your stuffed animal with, you know, when you were young.

Joy Bauer:

That's what I love. Do you know who a major celebrity crush is also? Coach Eric Taylor from Friday night lights.

Zac:

Oh, yes. Yeah.

Joy Bauer:

It's gotta be from Friday night lights. Like, that's what I know. I can't even watch him in anything else. Do you know that Connie came on to promote? She came on the Today show to promote Nashville, and I couldn't even look at her. I'm like, no, you're married to Coach Eric Taylor.

Kim:

Don't even tell me you're on another show. Just evil. Evil. Now, I love this. I love this. Tim Riggins on Friday night lights from nothing.

Joy Bauer:

Okay. That is a celebrity crush. That's a good one.

Kim:

That was a bad boy. I probably could tamed you, I'm telling you.

Joy Bauer:

But you know what, though? I would give you Tim, and I would take coach Taylor.

Kim:

Okay. You are a good girlfriend, and I'm a good girlfriend to the bad boy. Here we go. What is your favorite junk food? Salty and sweet. And I want it so junky that you are like, I have not had this in 17 years, and I probably, if I had it, I would just, like, go into a food coma. Salty.

Joy Bauer:

Okay. So salty would definitely be like pizza with ooey gooey, extra cheese, thin crust. Absolutely. Love it. Love, love, love pizza.

Kim:

Pepperoni, pepperoni, pepperoni.

Joy Bauer:

I don't eat red meat. I don't eat red meat. So it would have vegetables on it. Well, I really, honestly do like the vegetables on it, but it would have, like, ooey gooey, amazing cheese, and it would be thin crust. So that would be my salty, my savory when it comes to sweet. It would be a tie between thin, crunchy sugar cookies and melty vanilla ice cream. And I also have to throw, like, cabernet wine in there. It's not sweet, but I just love a great, great.

Joy Bauer:

I'm not going to say glass. I love a great bottle of wine. And I'm going to tell you something else. Kim, you said that you haven't eaten in 17 years. Here's my mantra. I live by a 90 ten food philosophy. Go out of my way to eat healthy 90% of the time, and I allow myself wiggle room 10% of the time. So what that means is 10% of the time in real time.

Joy Bauer:

I eat pizza, I eat ice cream. I have my cookies, I drink my wine, and I don't think that anybody needs an all or nothing approach. So 90 ten is how I raised my kids. 90 ten is how I live my life. And it could be a day to day. It could be a week to week, like, however you want to define that. But I also think it removes the deprivational piece. It just allows you to feel like nothing is your last sort of splurge meal of your life.

Joy Bauer:

I think it's a good rule of thumb for everybody.

Kim:

Yeah, I just had my 10% today with my little dip cone. Okay, one last question.

Joy Bauer:

That's right. Yeah.

Kim:

Anyone that is watching right now, that's saying it's too late. Joy. I'm past the point of no return. I have so much weight to lose. I have been eating terrible. My food noise is so out of control. My mindset is not right. My heart is not in the right place.

Kim:

I don't have any hope for my health and wellness, for my future.

Joy Bauer:

I say this from a track record, and I say this boldly from an amazing amount of truth behind the statement. It is never, ever too early or too late to start taking care of your health and having it pay off magnificently. And I say this because you can start with kids super young. We know that. But I have worked with people in their seventies, eighties, and nineties who feel significantly better than they ever had in their whole entire life. And I get the goosebumps right now. And I could start to well up because I have actual people in my head who have completely transformed their life just by starting small. You know, we talked about these weekly goals that starting to add up.

Joy Bauer:

And they started slowly but continuously and impressively losing weight and improving their health and feeling significantly and dramatically better than they ever had in their entire life. And, you know, it's that saying, you will not only gain years, you will not only add years to your life, but and every year. And so I tell people, listening, no matter how far in the black hole you feel that you are right now, you can slowly and confidently climb your way out of it. I'm telling you that. So start small, but please start today. Whatever age you're at is the perfect age to start making changes.

Kim:

All right, everybody, you heard her. You can connect with joy across all social platforms. On Instagram, on Facebook. Oybauer. She's got a fantastic free health resource and free recipes at her website joybauer.com. and make sure you check out her new brand new with 50. Her brand new 50 plus multivitamins and protein muffins bejoyly.com.

Kim:

that's bejoyly.com. now, they're not out yet, but you can go ahead and just sign up for her newsletter, and she's going to let you know when everything drops. Joy, you've got to come back and be with us. It's like we are BFF's.

Joy Bauer:

I feel like that, too. Thank you for saying that. Oh, my gosh. And really, I would love for you and Zac to come over here. Maybe one day you'll come over here and we could do your podcast from my kitchen and I'll set out like a whole big feast for you guys. You could taste test. We could weigh in. We could send everybody the recipe links.

Joy Bauer:

That would be fun.

Kim:

Oh, my gosh. Joy, I have your new book title. I have your new book title. Are you ready?

Joy Bauer:

What is it?

Kim:

The Bauer Buffet. That's it.

Joy Bauer:

Joy and Kim.

Kim:

Well, if it's an all you can eat buffet, I'm down like four flat tires.

Joy Bauer:

I'm down like four flat tires. Do you just think of these things off the top of your head?

Kim:

I am so country, and it's a little bit redneck that you never know what's gonna come out.

Joy Bauer:

I love it. I love it.

Kim:

I do, too.

Joy Bauer:

I love you best. Love you back. Bye, everyone.

Kim:

Love you, Joy. Bye, girl. My mother is gonna call me. Say, what are you talking about?

Zac:

Once she called me and she was like, am I really that bad? I was like, I don't even know what I said. Like, that was. And I was like, I don't.

Joy Bauer:

Are you able to hear, like, the occasion beeps in my ear.

Zac:

I'm not hearing any beeps.

Joy Bauer:

Perfect. Okay. You know what happens? Like, I shut everything off, do not disturb, got out of outlook and whatever, and for some reason, the beeps still find me. But as long as you're not hearing them, we're all good.

Kim:

Joy is haunted by the beeps. Okay, Joy, you ain't right in the head. I love you.  The Kim Gravel Show is produced and edited by Zac Miller at Uncommon audio.

Kim:

Our associate producer is Kathleen Grant from the Brunette Exec. Production help from Emily Bredin and Sara Noto. Our cover art is designed by Sanaz Huber at Memarian Creative. Our show is edited by Mike Kligerman. Our guest intros are performed by Roxy Reese. Our guest booking is done by Central Talent booking, and I want to give a special thank you to the entire team at QVC, and thanks to you for making this community so strong. Listen, tell somebody about the show and leave us a five star review. And make sure you're following the Kim Gravel show on your podcast app so we can keep growing this love who you are message together. I can't do this without you.

Kim:

So thank you so much for listening. And y'all, I love you with everything I got.