SUPERNATURAL FAITH Live with my Mom

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Kim:

Okay, you ready to go live, Mom?

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm ready. How long we gonna do this?

 

Kim:

Well, we're gonna do it till we talk it out.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, Lord, that could be all night.

 

Kim:

Listen, I don't know if you can sit in that position all night.

 

Jo Hardee:

Why?

 

Kim:

You know, we're live right now. People can hear us, they can't see us.

 

Jo Hardee:

For real?

 

Kim:

Uh huh. Oh, we're live. Hey, y'all. We are live. Zac, is everybody on? Are we live? Are we happening? We're doing our. I think we are live.

 

Zac:

Live. Kim, I am so excited to see you, to be here. We are live. Hello. I am in the control room. I am going to try to control this live, but I don't think I can control you, considering who you have in the room with you.

 

Kim:

Yeah, I've got mom, my mom here, and she's decked to the nines, but both of us have bare feet. Mom, you want to lift it up? Do the wide shot. Let me show you how we got bare feet. 1, 2, 3. You know we're country. 1, 2, 3.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm not showing.

 

Kim:

You. Just lift them up so people can know you're barefoot. So.

 

Zac:

All right, can I. Can I just say for a second, let's look that you were like, put the bug in the court, Put the bug in the lower corner so we hide your feet. Let's cut.

 

Kim:

Yeah. In the wide shot, I can have my bare feet and not really tempt a lot of people because, you know, there's people with feet fetishes out there.

 

Zac:

1. I said that. You're not supposed to say that on the live.

 

Kim:

Kim, I can. Well, this is the whole thing. This is true story qvc, like, ever. When I was started qvc, everybody was getting like, like people say, oh, you're so hot, you're so beautiful. Not me, everybody else. And I thought even the people going, oh, I love to see your feet. You know what I got? You're so funny. I got nothing.

 

Kim:

Well, okay, mom, are you going to fall asleep or you going to talk?

 

Jo Hardee:

You looked at your feet?

 

Kim:

My feet look good. I have good feet.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I don't. They look like mine, so I know you don't.

 

Kim:

Well, Lord help me Jesus. Okay, we're live and I'm excited to be here. Okay, we're gonna go. We're gonna put some of your comments up. So if you are in the chat and you're watching this live, give us a shout at any questions you have. We're going to talk all kinds of things about Kim of Queens, okay? We're gonna revisit because we got some new exciting stuff. Can you believe that show is still going strong?

 

Jo Hardee:

1. I know. It just keep. I told Travis it just keeps. Keeps popping up.

 

Kim:

Mother, I want you to be normal now. You're never that.

 

Jo Hardee:

I told Travis that you said, that's more like it.

 

Kim:

And then we're going to talk about. I wanted to have you on because first of all, did you know that, like, you are one of our most popular episodes and guests of the Kim Gravel show we've ever had and you hadn't been on in a long time.

 

Jo Hardee:

I never been on but once.

 

Kim:

I think you were on a couple times when we played a prank on you and you came over here.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's probably. That's probably the one that was number one. I mean, that was terrible.

 

Kim:

That was. Remember, you didn't have hardly any makeup on your. I'm gonna kill you. Kill.

 

Jo Hardee:

So.

 

Kim:

So that's why I want to have you back. But also, no one has ever heard unless you've read our. My book. But I don't think I had this one story we're going to tell today in my book about the supernatural faith that we've experienced together.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's true.

 

Kim:

It's true.

 

Jo Hardee:

It is very true.

 

Kim:

And so no one has ever heard those stories. And so we're going to tell those today. We have an angel story.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes.

 

Kim:

You have a total miraculous healing story. I have a healing story. I have a supernatural experience. I don't know if I'm going to tell that today. That might be a little overshare. That'd be episode two with mom. You know, with Cat. You know, Amy and I, that experience we had.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, it would take all day to do that.

 

Kim:

I think. I think people would just say, it's, Kim's lost it. She's lost it. Do you think they would say that I've lost it?

 

Jo Hardee:

Because you know what?

 

Kim:

I don't know if people think like. I don't think they understand. We're silly. We're fun. We love to have a good time. We're bleach blondes. We have not bleach.

 

Jo Hardee:

Mine is totally.

 

Kim:

Totally. But it used to be bleach, Mother. But you've always been a natural blonde. Yes, but I mean, we got tig. Oh, bitties.

 

Jo Hardee:

Kim, do you have to say that.

 

Kim:

I said tiggle bitties. I didn't say anything inappropriate.

 

Jo Hardee:

And, you know, we're for yourself.

 

Kim:

We're country. Would you say we're classy country or country classy?

 

Jo Hardee:

A little of Both.

 

Kim:

Yeah, I agree.

 

Jo Hardee:

A little both.

 

Kim:

Who's more classy in the family? Oh, who's number two?

 

Jo Hardee:

You.

 

Kim:

Thank God. Okay, who. Who. Who is fifth?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, my gosh. You mean now we're talking about males, too?

 

Kim:

We're just checking everybody.

 

Jo Hardee:

The males, they're about all the same.

 

Kim:

Where does Alice. What I'm trying to say is, where does Allisyn feel?

 

Jo Hardee:

Allisyn is a unique individual.

 

Kim:

She really is.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. I don't know what class she'd be. I'm ser. I'm not kidding. It's the truth. I mean.

 

Kim:

What do you mean?

 

Jo Hardee:

What do you mean? She's in a class of her own?

 

Kim:

She's in a class all by herself. That's a nice way to say that. Okay, so we got a lot of people watching. Hit us up before we get dive into this. We're gonna be on here about an hour just talking about supernatural faith.

 

Zac:

I think we got a question. Kim just. Just right out the gate. Kind of a hilarious question. Do you see it on the screen? Can you read it on the screen?

 

Kim:

I can't see it that far.

 

Zac:

Oh, was Kim an easy birth or. Amy wants to know.

 

Kim:

Easy birth. Amy wants to know, was Kim an easy birth?

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

No, I wasn't. Was I? You want to tell that story? Well, she can't remember, y'all.

 

Jo Hardee:

I can remember. Your dad drove me crazy.

 

Kim:

What did he do? Dad is a nut. Like. Oh, God. He's listening. Is dad on? Is Brooks Hardy on?

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't even think he knows. I'm just. I don't know. He don't know. This is.

 

Kim:

Honey, dad, let me tell you something. You got to know. Dad is an Internet sleuth. Do you know what that means?

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

Dad is. He stalks all of us on the Internet. He can tell me what somebody said about me. Three strands over on a post.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, now you. That's the truth. That is honest. The honest truth.

 

Kim:

Dad is like.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's how I keep up with you.

 

Kim:

That's right. Is your dad his dad? Okay. So anyway, back to that. At my birth, Amy wants to know, was our easy birth?

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

Okay, tell the experience.

 

Jo Hardee:

You were my first. Well, it was a new experience. I didn't know what I was doing. Okay.

 

Kim:

Well, no, if you had never had a child before, it would be.

 

Jo Hardee:

I was just saying that.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

I didn't know what I was doing.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

And so I. I went into labor. Yeah, pre labor, I guess is what you call it. And I called your dad, and he came home, and I went to the hospital.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

And they. They Said, okay, we're going to put you in this room. Okay, well, let me tell you, you don't want to go in that room.

 

Kim:

It was just a hospital room.

 

Jo Hardee:

And they send him in there with me.

 

Kim:

Oh, God. Well, that was a mistake.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. And then it was okay at first. Okay, the pains were not bad. And so he goes and buys him a newspaper, right? Comes and he sits there and the newspapers like this, right front of him, right. And I'm laying on there. And then the pains got worse.

 

Kim:

Worse, because they wouldn't. Epidurals and all that back.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, do you think he ever took the paper down?

 

Kim:

No.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, he got it higher.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I started. And so it's more. It was more and more and more. I started screaming, like, how I'm dying.

 

Kim:

Did you say you were dying? Yes, I know. I said the same thing.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm serious, because I. And I was calling the nurses, and, you know, they. They're used to it, so. So one of them, you know, opens the door and she said, Ms. Hardy, I said, listen, I'm dying in here. Get him out. Get him.

 

Kim:

What was he doing?

 

Jo Hardee:

Nothing. He was doing absolutely nothing but reading that paper. And he wouldn't even pull the paper.

 

Kim:

That just ticked you off? That ticked you off that he was not even into.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, he. I think he was afraid.

 

Kim:

He was scared of. Men are scared to death.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, he was really young, and I was young, so I'm sure he was scared to death. I said, get him out. Just get him out.

 

Kim:

Get him out. You didn't want to see his face?

 

Jo Hardee:

No. Did not.

 

Kim:

Y'all wonder why I say what I do about Travis?

 

Jo Hardee:

Did not. Well, ask. Most women are kind of.

 

Kim:

Well, most women feel like we feel, but they would never say it. We are the women that will say it for you. So all of you on the chat is like, my husband drives me crazy. Just come let us know and we will live that and talk about that for you. Go ahead.

 

Jo Hardee:

That time. I just want to do it by myself.

 

Kim:

Yeah, you're very independent. Like you're not a person of pain that wants coddling.

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't want. No. When I'm sick, I want.

 

Kim:

You want to be left alone? Me, too.

 

Jo Hardee:

I want to be by myself. Just please, God, let me get well and get up.

 

Kim:

Let me do my thing.

 

Jo Hardee:

And so it. It took, I guess I went in at 12.

 

Kim:

No, but, mom, you remember when the nurse was trying to help him? Was that after the birth or before, where the nurse was giving him all the attention and saying, Mr. Hardy, do you need anything?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, yeah. I mean, when they. When they came in the room and I told her, I said, get him out.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, I can't get him out. She said, Mr. Hardy, come on and go with me. I thought, I'm the one that's over here dying, you know? But no, it was okay. It was worth it. You were worth it.

 

Kim:

Was I wor. Was I. Was I. Was I a child? How was I as a child? Because, you know.

 

Jo Hardee:

Damn. You don't want me to tell that.

 

Kim:

I do tell the whole thing about the drinking and everything. Mom, you want me to.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, sure.

 

Kim:

You know, I ain't got nothing to hide.

 

Zac:

I didn't know you ever drank, Kim. You drank.

 

Kim:

We don't drink, babe.

 

Jo Hardee:

Never drank.

 

Kim:

We've never drank, but. And I'm not judging people who do, because Lord knows Allisyn could drink a sailor under the boat. Okay, so let me tell.

 

Jo Hardee:

Let me tell.

 

Kim:

Let me just. And my dad, too, honey. But we're used to. Dad don't drink no more, honey, bless his heart. There's a long story there with his teeth. But anyway, mom, we never drank, so that's part of the story. Well, I was a kid. Mom never drank, so she was.

 

Kim:

Let me set it up, and then you can go into it. So mom was. Has always been a youth pastor, a youth leader, a choir teacher. She's always helped kids in church, and she drug us to every g. A RA to witnessing, Tuesday night Visitation, Gospel Choir, singing, everything. I mean, I grew up in the church.

 

Jo Hardee:

You got to tell the one about you being the cow, too.

 

Kim:

I'll tell about the cow, but I grew up in the church to the point was like, I'm over church now. I love church. Don't get me wrong. I'm just saying, like, we lived in the church so much. That was like our second home. Literally, we were in the church as much as we were at home. So when growing up, mom was teaching this. This youth choir.

 

Kim:

Okay. And the. The young people were always around us, and I'm talking, like, probably I was, what, seven? Six. Five. About the drinking, about the wine.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, you were about 10, 11 years.

 

Kim:

I would know. 10, 11 years old.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, you were. You were not. No. 5 or 6 years old. You didn't have sense enough.

 

Kim:

You've got to think about what I'm saying. At 10 and 11 years old, we lived in Lilburn, at Arcado. This was back in South Carolina. I was little.

 

Jo Hardee:

This was in North Carolina.

 

Kim:

No, this was not in Georgia.

 

Jo Hardee:

This was in. So we didn't Seneca.

 

Kim:

Yeah, so, Babe, we did. We were. I didn't. I grew up here. Eleven. You. You're talking. You're not getting your numbers right.

 

Kim:

I had to be, like, five or six.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, you were not in the youth. I know that.

 

Kim:

Gosh, no, honey, I was a. I was little.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, you wasn't. Tiny.

 

Kim:

I was tiny. You're wrong.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I don't remember.

 

Kim:

1. I can't. When we moved here, I started going to fourth grade.

 

Jo Hardee:

It might have been six.

 

Kim:

Okay. That's what I just said. Anyway, go ahead.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, because when we moved, I think you were in the second grade.

 

Kim:

Yes. Hello, people. How.

 

Jo Hardee:

You were eight? Seven. Eight. Well, whatever. That's. That's. I. I can't remember.

 

Kim:

I was very, very young.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes.

 

Kim:

Okay, go ahead.

 

Jo Hardee:

And she went with us. Went with me every. Every time I went to the youth. We were doing a Christmas play. We were doing everything. And. And we had a lot of practices, and I would drag her with me, and she would, mom, let's go. Let's go.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, well, I'm gonna give you a solo.

 

Kim:

So we're not telling no story. We're telling the.

 

Jo Hardee:

Get to it, please. It's my story, all right? And so we were. We were doing the play. We were getting practicing the plane. We were there all the time. And so I said, well, I'll just give you a solo.

 

Kim:

Yeah, I remember this.

 

Jo Hardee:

So I signed her solo, and she practiced. I practiced with her home. So that Saturday, we were going to one of the religious. Where they sell books and stuff.

 

Kim:

Yeah. You know, like a Christian book fair.

 

Jo Hardee:

What was it?

 

Kim:

I can't remember, Mother.

 

Jo Hardee:

I can't remember.

 

Kim:

It doesn't matter.

 

Jo Hardee:

But anyway, I took one of the youth with me because I wanted her to help me pick out some music. And Kim was sitting in the back, and so she leans up between us.

 

Kim:

No, I was getting no attention. I remember this vividly.

 

Jo Hardee:

No attention. And she was used to getting most.

 

Kim:

Of my attention, all of her attention. Okay?

 

Jo Hardee:

And so we were laying up, we were talking, and right out the blue, right out of the blue, she says, you know, my mama drinks, y'all. That was the biggest lie she made up at that age. She was lying at that age. I want y'all to know that that was a big lie because she wanted attention. And she knew how bad I hated drinking.

 

Kim:

Well, you don't hate drinking, but you didn't practice drinking.

 

Jo Hardee:

I hate alcohol. I just tell it like it is, okay? And so she picked that one thing.

 

Kim:

I knew how to get.

 

Jo Hardee:

You and that, yes, you. She was always trying to do what I do.

 

Kim:

Of course she. I guess I wanted to be you all the time.

 

Jo Hardee:

I mean, seriously. But that. She was young to do that. But anyway, I started crying.

 

Kim:

Mother, that is a bunch of bull.

 

Jo Hardee:

Honey, don't you remember?

 

Kim:

I don't remember because I have only seen you cry. No, that's not one time in our entire life. No, she's. I don't believe that's.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's the truth. All right. That broke my heart. And I looked at that little girl.

 

Kim:

Okay, you try to get all these people watching.

 

Jo Hardee:

Kim, I talk, listen. It's my story I'm telling. And I looked at that little girl sitting across the. And I said, that is not true. I don't know why she said that. I do not know. I don't drink. I've never drank.

 

Jo Hardee:

Don't even like it. I can't stand it. And. But you know, she had already said it. Isn't that terrible? I went home. That bothered me so much. Let go.

 

Kim:

I was five just to make up a lie. Well, this is the thing. My mother was a lot to follow. Right? So do you remember the time that those guys were whistling at you in the truck? And I've always been a scrappy kid. People don't know that about me. Right. Like I will fight you. Like I, you know, if I have.

 

Jo Hardee:

She was gonna get the attention.

 

Kim:

Well, okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

Huh? She was going to get so.

 

Kim:

So there was a truck full of guys. I was young then too. And they were. Pull up next. Because my mom's always been this gorgeous. Okay? So just imagine.

 

Jo Hardee:

Really?

 

Kim:

Really. And so remember when they pulled up. You want to tell that story real quick?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, no, honey. You go ahead.

 

Kim:

Well, they pulled up and they were. Come on, hot mama. Good. Hey, blinded. What did I say?

 

Jo Hardee:

She said, dad, pull over. She said, pull over. Did you see what they did, dad, pull over.

 

Kim:

And I shout out. The men said, I'm gonna tell my dad. I'm gonna get you for flirting with my mom.

 

Jo Hardee:

She was so.

 

Kim:

I was scrappy. She.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, you really were. But let me tell one.

 

Kim:

Oh, God.

 

Jo Hardee:

We were going to church.

 

Kim:

Just tell stories about our favorite. People are asking questions.

 

Jo Hardee:

Okay. We were going to church one Wednesday evening. And we would stopped at the light. And one of the people that go to went to our church. It was a. A man. He pulled up beside us and he waved.

 

Kim:

I remember that.

 

Jo Hardee:

And she and Kim was in the back seat. Now, they didn't have seat belts or none of that. They didn't have any of that. And she was standing up in that terrible. But that's the truth. And she came up to the front, leaned over, and she said, why is he waving at you? He didn't wave at me.

 

Kim:

I seriously had an ego problem back in the day.

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't know what was wrong with.

 

Kim:

You, but this is the thing. I think that I was just bold. And the great thing about it was, is that you fostered that. Like, do you know what foster that means?

 

Jo Hardee:

I did not egg that on.

 

Kim:

You totally egged it on, Kim.

 

Jo Hardee:

You are crazy. I was being myself.

 

Kim:

That's what. Right. That's exactly.

 

Jo Hardee:

Excuse me.

 

Kim:

What did you say? What did you say?

 

Jo Hardee:

What did you say? That is not me. What did you just say? Hiccup? That means it's not me.

 

Kim:

It's so you, babe. You're always telling us to be bold. You were always telling me. Let me tell you something. If they say something to you, you better stop. Say something back. You were always that way. You were always.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's not what you meant.

 

Kim:

That's exactly what I meant. You were always encouraging my boldness in my vocal.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, well, that's true. I always wanted you to stand up for yourself.

 

Kim:

Right?

 

Jo Hardee:

That's true.

 

Kim:

Right. I remember there was a time, remember, when Allisyn.

 

Jo Hardee:

Wrong.

 

Kim:

Well, I just remember this. This is. This is my mother in a nutshell. Because, I mean, look, you are where you come from, right? And good, bad and ugly. But this is a true story. So mom. And we had a neighbor. Her name was Danielle.

 

Kim:

Danielle might be watching. Hey, girl, call me. Anyway, so mom was friends.

 

Jo Hardee:

They were probably four and five.

 

Kim:

Yeah. They were young, and I was six years older. And so they would come over and visit. And mom and her. Danielle's mom and mom were friends. And then Allisyn and Danielle were the same age. They were friends. And so Danielle was a little bit of a bully.

 

Kim:

And she would pull her hair and bite her and slap her and all that.

 

Jo Hardee:

At daycare.

 

Kim:

At daycare. So Allisyn would come home and, you know, beat up my mom, would ask her what happened. And do you remember what you told her? You said, allison.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. She came home, I picked her up one afternoon, and she had a cut right below her eye, right? And I said, ow. What happened? And she said, danielle. So I get out the car, I go back in, and I said, now listen, this has happened, like, three or four times. She's going to. I said, I know she's a child. I said, but you better watch her while she's here, because she could out. I Mean, that.

 

Jo Hardee:

That could put her close to the.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I was nice about it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, they came over.

 

Kim:

I think it was like they lived in our neighborhood.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, right, right. Two houses.

 

Kim:

I'll never forget this.

 

Jo Hardee:

And they came over, and we were sitting on the deck, and Alice and had her one of her little toys, and Daniel wanted it. And so I had not said nothing or any, because I was. The nursery was.

 

Kim:

You were watching.

 

Jo Hardee:

We're supposed to take care of that because I hadn't seen it or anything. And so she was playing with her toy, and Danielle goes over and grabs it from her. Now her mom's sitting right there. She didn't say one word.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I. And when she. When she did, Allisyn went to pull it back, and she just slapped her hard as she could.

 

Kim:

Oh, Lord.

 

Jo Hardee:

That didn't sit right with me. So. So I get. I get up and I go take Allisyn's hand, and I said, let's go inside him. So we walk inside, and I said, let me tell you something. You go back outside and you slap her right where she slapped you as hard as you can. And I know, but let me tell you, she did. And I said, because if you don't, I'm gonna turn you over my lap and spank you.

 

Kim:

She. I'll never forget this.

 

Jo Hardee:

And she goes back out, and she.

 

Kim:

Just slapped the mess out of her.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know what? Her mother got kind of mad with me anymore. They got up and left. But you know what? Daniel never.

 

Kim:

Never touched her again.

 

Jo Hardee:

Touched her again. I didn't never have to worry about that again because it had been going on and on and on. And that's. To me, maybe that's not the way you do it, but that's the way I did it, and it worked.

 

Kim:

Well, this is the thing. This. And I've got to point to that story because you. You and dad always taught us to kind of stand up for ourselves. You never fought our battles for us.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. No.

 

Kim:

And I. I wish I could say the same about my kids. I'm. I'm such a helicopter parent. Like. You say this to the point.

 

Jo Hardee:

You're an older parent.

 

Kim:

Yeah. What does that mean?

 

Jo Hardee:

That means you had your children older.

 

Kim:

What does that have anything to do with being.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because you're. It's different than. Because I was still young, too.

 

Kim:

So you were young and dumb.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah. Yeah, it's probably.

 

Kim:

Well, no, I say that because it's just when we live in a different time today, too.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah. But you. An older. Older parents are more. They know in Tune.

 

Kim:

Well, they've experienced, so. But you. You and dad always taught us to really fight our own battles. You would give us advice, and then you would never call on our behalf or to help us with our test to pass. I remember I failed geometry. Remember when I failed geometry? Mr. Thackeray, good God. Who.

 

Kim:

Why do we need geometry? What in the world am I using geometry for? Nothing. But I remember Mr. Thacker and calling you or something, said, well, she's failed. She goes, well, she's gonna have to. She doesn't have to be. If she's gonna be that dumb to fail every class, she'll just graduate when she's 20.

 

Jo Hardee:

I did tell him. And then. Don't you remember in your junior year, the teacher told you, oh, you need to take I'll never forget English. And I said, kim, that's a lot of literature. And at that time, you didn't like to read, right?

 

Kim:

Not like I do now.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, I. That's. It's really surprising, isn't it?

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

But I said, okay, you won't do it.

 

Kim:

No, you didn't. That's not what you said. You take. You said, you will fail if you take that.

 

Jo Hardee:

You will take. I did. I said, if you take it. I did tell you that.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, if you take it, you will fail.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, and if you fail, you are not going to summer school. Summer school. You will take that again in your senior year.

 

Kim:

And then she says, if you don't graduate, that is on. If you want to be that dumb and be 20 years in high school, 20 years old, then that's on you.

 

Jo Hardee:

20, 25, whatever.

 

Kim:

Yeah, but see, that's what I'm saying.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you're not that way.

 

Kim:

No, I'm not.

 

Jo Hardee:

You're definitely.

 

Kim:

Definitely. Was I always driven.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you got through it.

 

Kim:

Yeah. I'm 53, and I'm a high school graduate.

 

Jo Hardee:

You got through it. You graduated.

 

Kim:

I know, but what I'm saying is. What? I always. Always a driven kid because I was always trying to shuck and jive.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, let me tell you this. She was taking chorus.

 

Kim:

Oh, my gosh.

 

Jo Hardee:

She was calling me her course teacher, and she said, Ms. Hardy, I would like for you to speak with Kim. And I said, why? She said, because she's trying to teach the class. She said, I can't. I can't even get a word in. She. She acts like she knows more than me. Well, I did.

 

Kim:

Well, anyway, what were you gonna say? What were you. Just get ready. Say. What were you. Get ready.

 

Jo Hardee:

Say, listen I'm not in your class. That's your class. You got to deal with it.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I. I mean, I told. But I told her kindly, I said.

 

Kim:

Said, honey, I don't know what I'm gonna tell you.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not there. I said, it's your class, and you're. You have my. You have my okay to do whatever you need. Yeah.

 

Kim:

Discipline. Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

You need to put her in Saturday school. Whatever you need to do, do it again.

 

Kim:

My parents, like, hey, that's on you, teacher.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, let me tell you. Let me tell you this story. Allisyn was in, like, the third grade, and the teacher called me. She said, she's failing open book tests. I. Look, I said, okay, let me tell you. I said, let me tell you what to do. I said, pull her out, put her in the office.

 

Jo Hardee:

And, you know, because the main office has glass all the way around.

 

Kim:

Yeah. Let people see her.

 

Jo Hardee:

Said, put her in the corner, shame her, and make her stand there for half of the day, and I promise you she won't fail it again. She and the teacher looked at me and she's. I cannot do that. I said, then handle it, because that's all I know.

 

Kim:

My parents are into shame and fighting. That's what my parents did.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, I mean, it's not true. I mean.

 

Kim:

No, I hear you.

 

Jo Hardee:

Allisyn was all into herself and being miss it and all that.

 

Kim:

Well, she's still into herself.

 

Jo Hardee:

She needed to be. And. And that would. I knew that would really just, you know, but the teacher wouldn't do it. But I said, is your phone ringing? That's my phone.

 

Kim:

What is it doing?

 

Jo Hardee:

It's my crickets.

 

Kim:

What do you mean, your crickets?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, did I tell you the story about that?

 

Kim:

What? I want to hear it again. I'm just texting.

 

Jo Hardee:

You have to call it texting.

 

Kim:

You.

 

Zac:

You know, you're supposed to turn your phone off for the show.

 

Kim:

So every time.

 

Jo Hardee:

You didn't tell me, Zac, do you get. Every time you tell me to turn.

 

Zac:

It off, you've done tv? What do you mean? I didn't tell you? You've done television.

 

Jo Hardee:

That was 100 years ago.

 

Kim:

So your. Your alar phone is a cricket?

 

Jo Hardee:

No. That tells me I've got a message.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. Well, let me tell you something, Kim. I get tired of those ding a ling a ling lings. I get tired of those.

 

Kim:

I know, but crickets are annoying.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, let me tell you what happened. I did it one afternoon because I want it to be Specific, Pacific, you know?

 

Zac:

Okay, every. Everybody who's. Who's watching this that has Joe's phone number, just text her right now. Everyone just text her. Let's just get this out of the room. Every single person. Let's just do it.

 

Jo Hardee:

But let me tell y'all. Let me tell you what happened. I. Who keeps doing.

 

Kim:

Give me the phone.

 

Jo Hardee:

Let me tell you. So that afternoon, I. I did it. So I got a bed that night, and I was really tired and everything. And about, I guess about 10:30, 11:00, that went off. And I didn't. I thought, oh, the cricket sound. I thought, oh, heavens, there's a cricket in here.

 

Jo Hardee:

I get up, and I get up. I spend 10 minutes trying to find that stupid cricket. I mean, I really did. And I said, lord, I hope it does. In about another hour or so, I heard it again, you know, spam calls that you get during the night. And I said, I'm not getting up. I'll just have to wait till tomorrow and try to find that cricket. I got up, and I got my phone, and I went to the kitchen to get some coffee.

 

Jo Hardee:

And that here. That cricket goes. And I looked and I thought, oh, I forgot. I changed that to a cricket. Now, my. My ring is a.

 

Kim:

Mom, we don't care.

 

Jo Hardee:

My ring is a. I don't know, but.

 

Zac:

Okay, we need to get. All right. Hello. We need to get the show back on track. Kim, this is hilarious.

 

Kim:

Hold on. Okay, we have.

 

Zac:

We have an actual. We have a listener who asked a very good question.

 

Kim:

I can't read it, Zac. So you ain't. You asked the question? Because I can't read it this far.

 

Zac:

On my monitor, Ginger asks, tell us the wild supernatural story. I have some of those. We should be supernatural.

 

Kim:

Yeah. Okay, so this is why I wanted to have you on the podcast. Can you turn that off?

 

Zac:

I'm so glad that we're still getting texts.

 

Kim:

Okay, I turned off the cricket. I've already turned off the cricket.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, this is my watch. I can't turn that off.

 

Kim:

Yes, you can, Mother. Just mute it. So I was setting you up with all the fun stories from when we were growing up, because my mother always. And my father always wanted us to be fiercely independent. I'm probably more independent than Allisyn. But listen, we all get there in our own time. But that went through with our. Our faith life, our spiritual life as well.

 

Kim:

And I don't think we've ever publicly told this story. I've told it when I've spoke throughout, you know, the world in Places and churches and community centers and women's groups. But, you know, I'm really. I'm not nervous to tell the story because I know we all experienced it and we lived it. But I think, you know, people wonder why we have such strong faith. And I think our faith is definitely in our culture. And we were brought up in the church and we read the Bible and we, you know, we went. We're in church all the time.

 

Kim:

And that was a great community thing. But our faith goes so much deeper than that in. Because of the experiences we have had together. Right, right. And experiences that we've had with the Lord and the personal relationship that we've had and the manifestation of all that in our lives. I will never forget this story. And we've never told it publicly. Do you want to start it off or you want me to start off and you pick it up.

 

Kim:

My father traveled a lot.

 

Jo Hardee:

So he traveled from Monday to Friday because he was a regional director.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

He did that. And that left us was just the.

 

Kim:

Three of us and it was mom, me and Allisyn. And so we, we had the best life. We ate out all the time. We shopped. Ed wasn't there. I remember we had Friday afternoons. We have to clean up really fast and get it all together and hide all our packages and everything. We really had like this girl's girls life, right.

 

Kim:

This girlfriend's life. But this was, I think it was like on a Thursday night and dad was coming home the next day.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's true. It was on Thursday.

 

Kim:

And I. We had our little house that we lived in on Shunway. I'll never forget our phone number. 925-4454. That was our phone number. And our house had a long porch all the way across the front of.

 

Jo Hardee:

It with rock, with.

 

Kim:

With rocking chairs and, you know, had the. The front door and it was a long porch and. Mom, you woke me up about what, what time do you think it was?

 

Jo Hardee:

About 3:00 in the morning? Yeah, about 3 or 3:30 in the morning.

 

Kim:

And she woke me up and she said, kim. And I was a teenager.

 

Jo Hardee:

Let me tell.

 

Kim:

Go ahead.

 

Jo Hardee:

I was laying in bed and I heard the sound and I thought. And it was footsteps. And I thought, oh, somebody's in the house. So he traveled. So I have a gun. I had a gun. I get.

 

Kim:

You had no idea how to use it and still do not.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, he hit showing me how to use it. I never fired it. But you know, he put the safety on. He showed me how to take the safety off.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

So I get up and I get the gun because the footsteps sound like they were in our house.

 

Kim:

Right?

 

Jo Hardee:

And so I didn't turn any lights on, and I get up.

 

Kim:

Mom, can you please mute your. Dean.

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't know.

 

Kim:

Give me the watch.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, goodness gracious.

 

Kim:

Give me the watch.

 

Jo Hardee:

And anyway, and so I. I get up. I did not turn any lights on, and I go to Kim's bedroom, and I said, kim, get up. Why?

 

Kim:

I will never forget this.

 

Jo Hardee:

Get up. Now, I was a teenager, and I. I guess you heard that in my voice. And she got up, and I said, I think there's someone in the house. And so we go to the top.

 

Kim:

That's not how you said it. You go, girl, get up. I got the gun, and there's somebody in this house. Well, Kim, you were scared to death.

 

Jo Hardee:

I, I. Well, the second time I said it, she got up. Okay. Because, I mean, I did. It was. I might.

 

Kim:

It was scary.

 

Jo Hardee:

A little different. And so we go to the stairs, and we sit on top of the stairs, right?

 

Kim:

So our staircase, we had about 16 stairs, right. We had a staircase that we sat there. And so the front porch was. So when you walked in our front door, there was a staircase going upstairs.

 

Jo Hardee:

And there was a big foyer, a big four. And then on the right. On the right.

 

Kim:

Well, not a big four.

 

Jo Hardee:

It was a. Oh, it was a pretty big. For you for that. Because it had the double door.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

Doors with the double.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

But anyway, then it had the living room on the right.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

And the den on the left. And that porch covered the whole.

 

Kim:

Whole thing.

 

Jo Hardee:

Right. Okay. And so we sat and we kept hearing it, and it was just like.

 

Kim:

And you were like. It was like someone was marching.

 

Jo Hardee:

It was like a, A, A man, you. It was like when you see a guy in service with those shoes.

 

Kim:

Marching on boots.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. It was footsteps.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

And we sat there. I said, kim, what is he. What is he doing? Because I figured it was.

 

Kim:

It was pitch black.

 

Jo Hardee:

It was pitch black.

 

Kim:

We had no lights on, no nothing.

 

Jo Hardee:

And so we sat there, and it kept right on. It would go from one end to the other.

 

Kim:

And we did. We listened for about.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, wait a minute.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

And then we. We sat there about 45. I know, almost 45 minutes. Then we moved down to the middle of the stairs. We were so stupid. And then it kept right on. It got closer and closer.

 

Kim:

Louder.

 

Jo Hardee:

We were closer. Louder. Yeah. And so we sat there. I don't know how long we sat there.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

We finally, after a long time, got to the bottom. And when we got to the bottom, I mean, it was as clear as day. Yeah, they was like. They were going from one end to the.

 

Kim:

They were marching.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, now, Kim, here's what we're going to do. We sat there for a while too, because we were scared. We were really, really not scared, but because we had a door between us, we had a wall between us. And he. We found nobody was trying to get us outside. Nobody would doing the doors or not, right? But I said, now I'm gonna tell you what we're gonna do, right? I said, you go down to the living room, I'm gonna go to the den. And we're gonna. We're gonna see when he walks from one end to the other, right?

 

Kim:

Because you could hear it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, you could hear.

 

Kim:

You could hear it walking. Like she could hear it on her side, okay?

 

Jo Hardee:

And so Kim, she goes down there and she pulls the blind. She does this. And he was. I mean, Sam was right there.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

She said, he's not here.

 

Kim:

I don't see anything.

 

Jo Hardee:

There's nothing there. So I said, well, wait, so we're coming on down. And he got right. That's it. Got right in front of me. There was nothing there. Nothing. And by that time, I guess it was 5:30, close to 6, and.

 

Jo Hardee:

And the. The sun hadn't come out. But the daybreak was.

 

Kim:

Daybreak was there.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, let's just turn the light.

 

Kim:

I said, let's turn it.

 

Jo Hardee:

We turned the light on, guys. And the sound. It still walked from one end to the other. There was nothing there. We saw nothing when the window. When daybreak. But then when the sun started peeping up, it stopped. Completely.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, completely stopped. And I thought that, you know, you're kind of all confused, and I didn't know how to explain it. Kim didn't know how to explain it. Allisyn slept through the whole thing. We didn't wake her up. So that morning, I worked at Brookwood High School. And so I got ready, put the kids, get. You know, took the kids to school, got them off, went to work.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I was driving into the parking lot, and what came to my mind was I was protecting you. I sent an angel. I knew it. He didn't say it. I just knew it.

 

Kim:

It was a.

 

Jo Hardee:

Knowing it was in the mind. It just came to the mind. I was protecting you. So that was an angel. I knew that. I knew that. For when he. When it spoke to me, I.

 

Jo Hardee:

In that moment, I knew what it was. It was an angel. Because we were. I don't know what the angel was protecting us from, but he did it from 3 o'clock till the sun started peeping out the next morning. And you know, I don't really care if people believe it or if they don't believe it. I know, I know it.

 

Kim:

I was there.

 

Jo Hardee:

I know it. And there's been other things that's been supernatural in my life. But see, I know there's spirits. I know there's evil spirits and I know there's good spirits in this world. And I'm not naive enough not to believe that. And I think they're around us constantly. I think they have a lot of influence on us. They do.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I'm going to tell you all this. The one thing that I do know is the mind. The mind is the trap to the soul. And I'm telling you what you put in your mind and you keep it there. And you. And if it sees something bad and you, and you, you foster that and it grows, then it becomes a part of you in your, in your soul and in your spirit. So that's what I tell my kids. Make sure you know what you put in your mind, because what you put in your mind and you feed in your mind grows.

 

Jo Hardee:

Grows. That is, that is our, that's our safety net right there.

 

Kim:

Yeah, so that's, that's the, that's the gate.

 

Jo Hardee:

I've always told my duck, my girls, keep the door closed to your mind with bad thoughts, bad deeds, bad things, and do not dwell on it.

 

Kim:

Yeah, well, you know, we're calling this the supernatural faith because, I mean, that story, I lived it, I saw it, I experienced it. You can't ever take somebody's experience from them. But can you tell when, when God really delivered you from smoking? Because this is the thing about my mom is like, if you say, well, I've got a stuffed toe, well, honey, Jesus will heal it. From the rooter to the tutor. I mean, it's like you don't even skip a beat with that. And now I see mom doing it and I'll say something like, yeah, God's going to take care of it, Mom. Like, like they're, they're, you know, they make fun of us and everything, but it's the truth. My kids.

 

Kim:

Beau has miracle stories to share. So does one. But can you share your story with when God took smoking from you because you smoked to the point I hated it.

 

Jo Hardee:

I loved it. Let's be honest. I, I was, I was in my 20s, I.

 

Kim:

And smoking was huge back then.

 

Jo Hardee:

My late 20s and my early 30s. And I love smoking, y'all. I did. I enjoyed it. And I went to work every day, and we have breaks, and we'd smoke. Back then, it was.

 

Kim:

It was the thing to do.

 

Jo Hardee:

I mean, yeah. And I work with this lady.

 

Kim:

And you were like, I'm not quitting. I don't want to quit.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, I'm gonna tell you, okay, I worked with this lady. Excuse me. And we were sitting at lunch one day, and there's four or five of us at lunch break. And she said, you know, I've been praying. And she said, I've been praying to the Lord to just release me from this cigarette smoking. And I said, well, I'll pray for you. I'll pray with you. I said, but I'm gonna tell you, I mean, I was honest.

 

Jo Hardee:

I was honest because, yeah, if you're.

 

Kim:

Nothing else, you're honest.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, I enjoy it. I said, I enjoy smoking. And I said, I know it's probably more sociable than what Rob, you know, than. I really. I said, but I really enjoy it. And I said, but if God ever convicts me of it, I'm. I'll do what he tells me, right? And she said, I wish he would just take it away from me. She didn't say convict me, or.

 

Jo Hardee:

She said, I just. I've been praying for him to take it away. Y'all not gonna believe this. I went home that night. Now, I'm gonna tell you that that was probably on a Monday or Tuesday. And that weekend, I just bought a brand new car and cigarettes. I bought a brand new lighter, and I bought a brand new. You know, you had to have a nice case to carry your cigarettes.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I just spent that money on that because I. If I was going to do it, I wanted to do it right.

 

Kim:

I wanted to look good doing it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it ain't stupid.

 

Kim:

No.

 

Jo Hardee:

But anyway, I went home, and Kim and her dad were going to run to the store to get a loaf of bread or something or milk or something. I can't remember. And so I went in the living room, and I was having my. I had my Bible there, and I. And I was reading Scripture and all. And it was like. Like that voice inside of my mind, and it said, get up. So help me, this is the truth.

 

Jo Hardee:

I would not tell you a fiber. It was in my mind. Get up. Go to the bathroom. That's where I kept my cigarettes. And it said, take that carton of cigarettes, tear them in half and throw them away. Throw the lighter in the trash and the case you bought. I thought, what.

 

Jo Hardee:

Remember what I said that day at lunch? If he ever convicts me, I'll do it right. Well, he spoke. He's in my mind. That's what came to my mind. I go to the bathroom, I tear up the cigarettes. I tore the. I put the lighter in the.

 

Kim:

What were you thinking when you were doing that?

 

Jo Hardee:

I was just doing. I was just doing. It was like. I don't know. I don't. You don't think.

 

Kim:

Were you possessed?

 

Jo Hardee:

I know. I. I just did what he told me. I did what it told me, and I did that and put it all in the trash. And I was walking back from the bathroom and I went to the. Don't ask me why I did that. I went to the kitchen, opened the cabinet to get a glass. A.

 

Jo Hardee:

Was gonna get a glass of water. And I said, but, Lord, what am I gonna do when I eat tonight? Because I do love a good secret. After I hate. So every door. When I said that, I. I'm so stupid. No, you're not so stupid. That's what I said.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's what I asked.

 

Kim:

You were thinking, like, what you were saying, how am I getting.

 

Jo Hardee:

And it came to my mind just like. I'm not saying the Lord's, but it just comes to your mind, right?

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I said. He said, don't worry about it. I'll take care of it. From that moment until this moment, I have never desired another cigarette. They make me sick. My husband, he would say, because he couldn't believe it, because when he came home, when y'all, he told him.

 

Kim:

He told him you were delivered.

 

Jo Hardee:

I said, I've been delivered from smoking. And, you know, he. You know.

 

Kim:

Yeah, he's so. He's like, travis, if it. You gotta see it to believe it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Week after week, he'd say, are you sure you're not smoking? No, I've not got a desire to smoke.

 

Kim:

He took the desire completely away, because.

 

Jo Hardee:

If he hadn't, you would have done it. And he knew that working with children, he knew that's. Was what I was going to do the rest of my life. And he knew maybe that wouldn't be a great influence, you know, for be around children, me smoking around, you know. And that's why I think he took it away from me. And I didn't ask, so help me Lord, I did not ask. But I. I am not one to give up something I really like.

 

Kim:

Do you think. Do you think that the supernatural faith is because the Bible talks about coming with the faith of a mustard seed. Or like as a little child. Do you think there's something to that?

 

Jo Hardee:

Of course there is. Of course. Of course. And you know, it's deep, but it's not deep.

 

Kim:

Yeah, simple. It's deep, but it's simple.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, that is so true. There comes a moment, because when I said that that day, sitting at that table. Well, if he convicts me of it.

 

Kim:

You spoke it out.

 

Jo Hardee:

I did. And. And it happened that night. It happened that night. That. And then that. The first thing we did. Now let me tell you the third thing that happened to me.

 

Jo Hardee:

Let me tell you why I love Jesus. And nobody on this earth could ever change my mind. Because one day I'm going to be there and I'm going to be rejoicing because this is temporary. So I'm going to tell you this. There, like I said, I believe there's evil spirit. Yes. And there's a good spirit I've experienced. That's the Holy Spirit.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I was reading my Bible one night, and I don't know where everybody else was, but I was in the. Because I like to read my. When I'm by myself. And I was in. I was in the living room and I was reading. And I know when this. I don't know if it was a demon. I don't know what it was, but I was reading the Scripture.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I'm going to tell you one thing, and I'm going to tell everybody listening the name of Jesus. There's power. And if you don't believe it and you don't know how to pray, all you got to do is call his name. Because I was sitting there and this thing came in. It started at the top of my head and it went to the bottom of my feet. And I'm going to tell y'all. And I don't. You know, you don't might not believe it.

 

Jo Hardee:

I can't help it, but it paralyzed me. I couldn't move. I couldn't speak. I couldn't do anything. I was paralyzed. I mean, it was. And I truly believe it was fear because when it entered, it just stopped everything. I mean, my.

 

Jo Hardee:

I mean, I couldn't physically move. And I. I don't know how to explain to you how it felt. I don't know.

 

Kim:

I do.

 

Jo Hardee:

But in my mind. Jesus. Jesus. And I couldn't speak it, but it kept in my mind and it started growing and growing. Finally I could whisper it. Finally I could hear a little bit of my coming out. And when I did, when I could get my. When my voice came back, I screamed it Jesus.

 

Jo Hardee:

It broke just like that. It broke just like that. And you tell me there ain't the power in that name? I'm going to tell it is the most powerful tool we have. It's the name of Jesus. And if you don't know how to pray, all you got to do is say Jesus. Because you know what? He already knows. He enters, he intercedes for the Father. Because we can't go.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because God can't look on sin. And we're sin. Even though we're saved, we're still got that old nature in us and we still sin. So that's why Jesus has to intercede to God.

 

Kim:

Intercede.

 

Jo Hardee:

And he knows what our heart says. That's why we don't judge people.

 

Kim:

Yeah, but. Yeah, that's the truth.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's because the heart is not the outside.

 

Kim:

No. And you're so right about the mind, because it plays what you enter and what you believe in. The mind becomes what. What is lived out.

 

Jo Hardee:

Right.

 

Kim:

That's why you're saying, you know, audibly hearing God's voice, which I believe people, you just.

 

Jo Hardee:

It's. It's like, you know, people say it's a knowing. I don't know. I've just. It's. It just comes to you. It's like somebody's telling you, but there's no speaking. You just know.

 

Jo Hardee:

You know, you just know.

 

Kim:

Is that. Where do you think these experiences that you've had these supernatural experiences? And I believe a lot of people have had miracles and supernatural things. They just don't recognize them. You know, like, you'd be surprised how. How God is interceding for all of us all the time. And we don't see it. You know, we don't believe in coincidence. You know, things happen.

 

Kim:

But do you think that's where your strength comes from, is because you've lived those experiences with him?

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. And you want me to tell you where I believe it started?

 

Kim:

Where?

 

Jo Hardee:

When I was a little girl, we lived on a farm and we don't. We didn't have neighbors. Yeah, it was a farm two miles away or whatever and was just brothers and sisters. And I would go to. We live right next door to a big Baptist church.

 

Kim:

It's still there.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah. And at that time, my mom and dad didn't go to church, but my grandma did. And we. And we were right in walking distance, so I could go to church anytime I started. I started, you know, when I was little. I mean, I would go with her When I was six, seven, eight years old, then I always went till I got to be. I will. Until I was married.

 

Jo Hardee:

But I would go home. My mom and dad always would take a nap in the afternoon, on Sunday afternoon. And we had this dogwood tree. See, I didn't have anybody to play with. My brothers and sisters were young, and I didn't. I didn't really care for them anyway. You know, they. They were always up trying to get in all my stuff, and I would.

 

Jo Hardee:

Every minute I could get away, I'd slip away. And so on Sunday afternoons, I would go. They'd be playing because they played together, my brother and sister. And they were more the age. I was, like six years older than them. So after we would eat lunch and my mom and dad would take a nap, I would go out and I had this stump. They'd cut a tree down, and I'd sit on this stump and I would talk to the Lord. He was my best friend.

 

Jo Hardee:

See, kids today, they've got so much going on until they can't.

 

Kim:

Distractions.

 

Jo Hardee:

They can't hear. I hadn't. I. And I thank God every day for that experience. And I grew up, and he was my best friend. I would sing. I was down. I would just talk to him like he was just going to answer me right that minute.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's how I believe. And there was this dogwood tree in the edge. And my Sunday school teacher said, she took that tree. And they used to tell us, they teach us this. And that tree was the symbol of Jesus's hands where they had crucified him. And that the blood was at the. And I would go out. I remember every Easter.

 

Jo Hardee:

Every Easter, I'd go out there and I set that tree. And that tree meant so much to me because it was a symbol of what he did for us. And I had that quiet time with the Lord when I was a child. See, it's not that way anymore. These children have so much going on. They. They are. And that's.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's nothing but, you know, distraction. It's just a distraction.

 

Kim:

How if somebody. And if anybody has any questions, please ask. Did you ever have a time where you questioned your faith?

 

Jo Hardee:

You know, Kim, I really. I really know, because I don't.

 

Kim:

But what would you say to somebody that does? Mom, not everybody has, you know, not everybody has this kind of faith that you're talking about, this supernatural faith. What would you say to somebody who says, you know, Joe, that sounds good for you.

 

Jo Hardee:

Never give up. Never give up.

 

Kim:

Never give up.

 

Jo Hardee:

But, see, because See, the other night at our Bible study, remember? God has a plan.

 

Kim:

He's got a plan. And we, and I, the, the scripture is that proverbs, it says you can brainstorm and plan, but God's purpose prevails.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. Yeah, yeah.

 

Kim:

And he has a purpose for all of us.

 

Jo Hardee:

And a lot of us, you know, a lot of us are more hard headed than others. We're also different because God made us that way.

 

Kim:

Yes, yes.

 

Jo Hardee:

But he loves us all.

 

Kim:

Yeah. And he has a purpose for us all.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, of course.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

We weren't born just to be born.

 

Kim:

Hello.

 

Jo Hardee:

He has a purpose.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know, like I said, we live in these busy lives and sometimes we don't see it.

 

Kim:

We get, we get distracted.

 

Jo Hardee:

We get distracted. But I tell you, most people, when they get down and there's no way out, they usually call on him.

 

Kim:

A lot of people.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, yeah, a lot of people, they usually call on him. So I don't know. I mean, I just, I've never even, I've never questioned it, you know. You know, even in the bad times, I know that he's got it.

 

Kim:

He's got it.

 

Jo Hardee:

It hurts.

 

Kim:

It hurts.

 

Jo Hardee:

Death hurts. Pain hurts. When you love your loved ones, hurt that you hurt your children. It. But there's a piece. And I know, you know, everybody says there's a peace in the. There is a peace. There is a peace that you have when the struggles you can't handle.

 

Jo Hardee:

There's a. There's still a piece when you know Jesus.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm going to tell you people that's the only thing you got in this life is your family, your friends and Jesus. Well, Jesus comes first.

 

Kim:

Well, that sounds like a country song if I've ever heard one.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I'm just telling you, I know it.

 

Kim:

I do too. And I have so many supernatural. How long have we been going, Zac? Because I do part two on this because yeah, I, I have experience. And I'm going to say that because we're going to do another live with mom about this because you know that I've had supernatural experiences that. Some are great. And there was one that Amy experienced with me that will rock you to your core. Maybe we should have Amy on to talk about that. And I'm even scared to tell you because you're going to think Kim is crazier in a one arm paper hanger, which is true.

 

Kim:

But this is what happened to me with this experience. I will never want to do this experience again, I'll be honest with you. But at the same Time. It's real, people. The spirit world is real. And I've experienced it in both good and bad. You've experienced it both good and bad. But you too, can have that supernatural faith.

 

Kim:

I promise you.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, let me tell you this, too. This is something, you know, we shouldn't fear. We shouldn't live in fear because, you know, faith and fear don't go together. Well, you know, it's hard.

 

Kim:

That's easier said than done, though.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm telling. I know, but I'm telling you what the scripture says. Your faith and fear, because the devil puts the fear.

 

Kim:

Yeah, he does.

 

Jo Hardee:

Now, you're supposed to have fear of God. That's reverence. Yeah, That's. That's a. Everybody should feel that because he is the ultimate. He is the He.

 

Kim:

He's our creator.

 

Jo Hardee:

He is the one that's going to one day judge us.

 

Kim:

Right?

 

Jo Hardee:

And. But I'm talking.

 

Kim:

But not in a bad. Not in a judgy. In a people. I know, but see, a lot of people listening might not be believers like you have not experienced it. So they might think that church and people and. We ain't talking about church people. We're not talking about. Your church is flawed from the rooter to the tutor.

 

Jo Hardee:

We're talking about.

 

Kim:

We are talking about a relationship in life experience. I will never forget this is true story. Dad's gonna kill me for saying this, but my dad's a preacher's kid, so my dad grew up church, Church people. And my grandfather could read, Could. Could recite the Bible from Genesis to Revelations. He was just fantastic people. But I remember my dad when I was young, he was like, baby, don't put your faith in no man. You can go listen to church and read the Bible on your own.

 

Kim:

Because he's. He. He puts his drawers on one leg at a time, just like he said. They are not perfect people. So forever. Y'all have always saying, get it for you. Don't get it through somebody else. Don't get it through me.

 

Jo Hardee:

You can't count on.

 

Kim:

You can't count on people.

 

Jo Hardee:

You can take what people say and. But you.

 

Kim:

You cannot follow that.

 

Jo Hardee:

Nobody can do it for you.

 

Kim:

That's it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Nobody can do it.

 

Kim:

That's what I'm saying. I'm circling it back where you were saying, Kim, you got to stand on your own two feet. Right? You've always had us do that.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes.

 

Kim:

Even in our faith. Yes, even in our faith.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because I can't do it for you, Kim.

 

Kim:

No, you can't have your mom and Daddy's faith. No, you can't, because.

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

And. And we're not accountable. You're not even accountable for my faith. You will stand before God. He will ask you about you.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, I'm accountable for you. To assert to you.

 

Kim:

You are responsible, not accountable.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. Let me tell you, children, when God gives us children until they're old enough.

 

Kim:

Oh, God. When is that age, Mother?

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, you. I don't. I don't know. I don't know. But I do know that when you get to be an adult and you know. Yeah, we are accountable for y'all until you become that you know right from wrong.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

Can handle that.

 

Kim:

Well, have I been dragging you along, I mean, all your life, like, from limb to lamb on different things?

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, but I've loved it.

 

Kim:

You've loved it. Did you love me dragging you onto a reality show called Kim of Queens and has now made a Disney plus comeback?

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

It's on Disney plus, y'all. The show is 11 years old.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, the message is good.

 

Kim:

The message.

 

Jo Hardee:

The message is good.

 

Kim:

It's a message of faith, too, and.

 

Jo Hardee:

I like it because it's with children.

 

Kim:

Yeah, it's a message of faith, too. Zac. Do we have any. Like, I just want y'all to know Kim of Queens is now running on Disney plus. I mean, I have made it with my children. Like, my youngest was your Disney plus, Mom. I mean, like, what's that, Mommy? It's the Disney network. Disney plus.

 

Jo Hardee:

They just put a plus on it.

 

Kim:

They put a plus on it because you stream it.

 

Jo Hardee:

Zac.

 

Kim:

I can't just ask the questions.

 

Zac:

Yeah. Does anyone have questions? I want to know if anyone has questions about Kimmel Queens.

 

Kim:

We're ready if anybody has any questions at all. I can't read any of the writing that's on the screen.

 

Zac:

Yeah. So I actually. I'm going to paraphrase a really long question that was asked a few minutes ago.

 

Kim:

It could be about anything. It had to be about Kim Queens.

 

Zac:

Well, someone asked, do you open yourself up to the Lord every morning? Like she said, a lot more, but I think that's a good question, right? How do you sort of engage with your faith?

 

Kim:

You go ahead.

 

Jo Hardee:

You go first.

 

Kim:

You go first.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'll close it before I go to bed at night. I talk to the Lord, Mom.

 

Kim:

You talk to him all day. Now, wait a minute.

 

Jo Hardee:

Wait a minute. I talk to him every night. Every morning when I get up, the first thing, I thank you, Lord, for another day and for another night. Help me and guide me today to be More like you. That's my daily prayer for him. And then I pray for my family and my church, and it just goes on and on and on. Because if I pray at night, I pray at night, but I don't do the long list. I like to call my.

 

Jo Hardee:

In my prayers, the names and, you know.

 

Kim:

Yeah. You get specific.

 

Jo Hardee:

And I. And. But at. Because at night I'll go to sleep because it's so long. But in the morning. Yes. And then during the day, you know, I can be driving down the road or whatever.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

1. Thank you.

 

Kim:

I think the point of it is. Is that. And I want to ask you this question, too, but I think it's more of. I'm not praying to. He is with.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, he's my. He's my.

 

Kim:

He's with us. He dwells.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. It's a. Yeah.

 

Kim:

It's, you know, Jehovah Jireh, you know, he's our comforter. He's our provider. He's. He's our.

 

Jo Hardee:

He's a constant.

 

Kim:

He's a constant. But I think. But I just want to be mindful of people. Some people might listen and say, I don't know what that means. Do you feel yourself the older you're getting, the more.

 

Jo Hardee:

Of course.

 

Kim:

Okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

Of course.

 

Kim:

What was I going to say then? Because I.

 

Jo Hardee:

You closer. No, more. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes. Thank. It takes a whole lot.

 

Kim:

Are you.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, it takes a whole life.

 

Kim:

Start crying.

 

Jo Hardee:

It takes a whole life.

 

Kim:

But, like, are you ready to die?

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes. Yes. I don't want to leave my family and my loved ones, but, yes, I'm excited to see Jesus. I'm not afraid of death.

 

Kim:

You know, A woman called in the other day to qvc and she's in hospice care. She has two months to live. That's what they told her. We believe for more. She bought a pair of jeans and she said, I have faith that I'm going to live long enough to wear these jeans to see my granddaughter graduate.

 

Jo Hardee:

Heard that. Yes.

 

Kim:

And there was she. There was no fear in her voice. There was no. No nervousness. It was just belief.

 

Jo Hardee:

It takes a lifetime sometimes for people to get there. It. It's. It's taken a whole lifetime for me. These. The journey. And I look back on the journey that I've come with the Lord. And like I said, it started when I was a little girl, that time I spent with him.

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't think I would be where I'm at today if I hadn't had that opportunity to spend that time with him.

 

Kim:

But is it Ever too late. If you didn't have that opportunity when.

 

Jo Hardee:

You were little, honey, no. You could be on your deathbed and call out. Because you know what Jesus wants from us? He wants us to be thankful and grateful and to praise him.

 

Kim:

Yeah, he.

 

Jo Hardee:

He wants those. And he says, if you don't praise me, the rocks will cry out.

 

Kim:

And honey, they crying out these days.

 

Jo Hardee:

I mean, he wants us to be thankful. I, you know, I teach Sunday school and I with kids and I tell them, guys, what you put in your mind is what. What's going to stick. So you get out of the games, get out of all that mess, get out all that rock music. Do it.

 

Kim:

Tell them that acid rock and those.

 

Jo Hardee:

Little kids, you know, listen, I had a little girl to go to a party, and they put on this rock song and it's a little kids party. She's 9 years old, 10 years old. And she looked at the mother. It was one of her little friends. She looked much. She said, you can't play that.

 

Kim:

She said, Ms. Jo said, Y'all know this is a true story. Remember when I bought Purple Rain the cassette track?

 

Jo Hardee:

I tore it up.

 

Kim:

Darling Nikki, remember you said, this ain't nothing but the sput. And I, she, You tore that cassette tape up twice. I bought. You pulled out. I bought it twice. Purple. But you know what? God where she so Prince. I'll get to see.

 

Kim:

I'll get to hear you play in heaven. But do you remember that?

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, I tore it.

 

Kim:

But is that part of like the dos and don'ts, the rules? Or is that what you put in.

 

Jo Hardee:

Comes out, you know, God, because you're.

 

Kim:

Not a rules person.

 

Jo Hardee:

God's so merciful.

 

Kim:

Oh, come on now. He'd have to be a deal with me.

 

Jo Hardee:

Listen. To deal with any of us, right. To deal with. Because I mean, he says, you know, our. The best we got is like filthy rags.

 

Kim:

Come on.

 

Jo Hardee:

I mean, he says that.

 

Kim:

Well, look at us. We're over here doing a podcast and you got bare feet and with two toenails chipped. No judgment. We listen and we don't judge.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm telling you, he says that. So none of us.

 

Kim:

No, none. None of us are.

 

Jo Hardee:

I don't care.

 

Kim:

Good enough.

 

Jo Hardee:

We are all equal. We were all.

 

Kim:

We're all the same.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, but it's your choice.

 

Kim:

It's choice.

 

Jo Hardee:

God gave. God gave us free will. It's our choice.

 

Kim:

It's our choice where we live.

 

Jo Hardee:

Eternity is our choice. So.

 

Kim:

So okay. Okay. What do you think about success? Do you think that's A choice. And I don't mean success with money and fame, let alone a choice like, do you think we are a result of some of the choices we make? Because, you know, we. We have some people in our family that's on the struggle bus.

 

Jo Hardee:

Are you kidding? Yes. There's a consequence to every choice.

 

Kim:

I know. But we're never too far that he can't restore.

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, no, honey. Because if we were, we'd all be gone.

 

Kim:

But this is what I say all the time. I mean, I was talking to my nephew and I said, make a different, better choice. That is the beautiful thing about the free will that we have. See, people think that walking with God and walking with the Lord is restrictive. It's not. It's so expansive.

 

Jo Hardee:

Let me tell you how people feel like that. People, most people feel like they got to be good enough to come to the Lord.

 

Kim:

You don't.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I'm going to tell you people out there today, you don't have to be nothing because there's nothing you can do to save you. He has to do it all, and he will. You cannot be good enough. So when you come to him and the Holy Spirit, he gives you the Holy Spirit. He don't leave you down here by yourself. He leaves the Holy Spirit with you to help you, to guide you. Okay? That's you. There is nothing you can do to save your soul.

 

Jo Hardee:

Except. Except Jesus Christ is your savior.

 

Kim:

Well, let me.

 

Jo Hardee:

Nothing.

 

Kim:

Let me say this to you, Mom. For those of you, for those people that are listening, that are dealing with financial struggles or dealing with maybe a health issue or dealing with a kid, that is that. Or their child or their grandchild that's gone astray. What's some hope you can give them tonight?

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, we can comfort those people, always encourage and be kind, but we can't enable.

 

Kim:

Okay, this is just taking. Lord, help me. That's just taking a turn. Are you here?

 

Jo Hardee:

When you do that, you take away their capability of doing it. So that is not a good thing.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

Do you understand what I'm saying?

 

Kim:

Yes.

 

Jo Hardee:

You know, so you have to help them help themselves.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

And sometimes the Kim, that's not easy.

 

Kim:

It's not easy. That's what we're doing with a couple people in our family.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah. And you have to come to the point, say, okay, Lord, I've done what I can do. I've enabled, you know, so are you.

 

Kim:

Okay, Let me ask you this. Have you been an enabler to some people in our family?

 

Jo Hardee:

Of course I know she has. We all have but with God's. With his leader. But I'm gonna tell you something. That is one of the hardest things you'll ever do.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

Is to people you love.

 

Kim:

Let go, let go, let go.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because God can't do his. His what he wants to do. Right?

 

Kim:

And we ain't got no control, no way over nothing. And we are. You're talking pro freaks, dominant type A.

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm not as bad as I used to be, Mother.

 

Kim:

You are so bad.

 

Jo Hardee:

You think?

 

Kim:

Oh, I know.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, I don't feel like I'm as bad as I used to.

 

Kim:

Well, you can feel that way, but you are it. All the family can say a whoop whoop right now.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, that's. Y'all need to get it together. Y'all need to get it together.

 

Kim:

Zac, do we have any questions? We could go on and on. I have some. I'm telling you, we're going to do a supernatural series because I'm going to get Amy on the couch. I've experienced it. Amy's experienced it. Travis has experienced it. When you open up your heart and your mind to the. The goodness of God.

 

Kim:

Yeah, the goodness of God. I feel like I'm a preacher. I come from a long line of.

 

Zac:

Them, so this is better than a revival. So maybe you are.

 

Kim:

Well. Well. And look, I know we sound like Bible beaters. I've been called that all my life. But the great. Why I wanted to have this tonight and talk about the supernatural faith is because, y'all, it's not just lip service. It's lived experience. Like, and that's what no one can take away from you.

 

Kim:

It's like if you've. I used to get so tickled because there's some coaches at the local school that are coaching sports that have never played or coached the sport before, but they're supposed to be an expert, and they've never played the sport. They don't have lived experience. Why would you go and believe anybody or listen to anybody who hasn't had lived experience? And there's a lot of people listening right now that grew up in the church that have left because, like, I'm not seeing any fruit. I'm not seeing any lived experience. What we're talking about tonight is this. We say relationship, but it's so much more than even that. It is almost like an ultimate dependence.

 

Jo Hardee:

You can. Yes.

 

Kim:

And a knowing that it's bigger than us.

 

Jo Hardee:

It is a knowing you. But I'm gonna tell you something. The more. The more you seek him.

 

Kim:

Okay, now, what does that mean?

 

Jo Hardee:

The more you read the Bible, the more you share him.

 

Kim:

Okay, okay.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because, see, that's. That's our main purpose on this earth, is to win people.

 

Kim:

It's share. Yes, yes. Okay. That. Seeking him means sharing, reading, reading, talk.

 

Jo Hardee:

Using your talent for the Lord.

 

Kim:

Come on. Talent. That's huge.

 

Jo Hardee:

And everybody has something they can give.

 

Kim:

Everybody because we're given that to be a light. To be. Yes. Oh, gosh. Oh, that's a good one.

 

Jo Hardee:

Because you said he.

 

Kim:

I got a plan for all watching.

 

Jo Hardee:

He. He has a plan for all of.

 

Kim:

Us, and he equips us.

 

Jo Hardee:

But just think of what we're missing when we don't seek it out. Just think of the life we could have if we would seek that purpose.

 

Kim:

It could. Seeking be just. I'm driving to work and I just say, God, what would you do for me? What can I do for you today? What. What. What do you want me to do today?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, you should ask them that every day.

 

Kim:

I mean, just. It's just that simple. Like, I think people think I've got to go do a Bible study.

 

Jo Hardee:

No.

 

Kim:

Church every Sunday.

 

Jo Hardee:

No. Just like I told you. Just be. If you can't pray, just say Jesus. He'll give you. He'll give you.

 

Kim:

He'll give you something.

 

Jo Hardee:

He will. I'm telling you. All you have to do.

 

Kim:

But you know what? Zac and I have been doing that. Zac, haven't we been doing that, you and I?

 

Zac:

We have been.

 

Kim:

We've been doing that for the podcast. We just decided together, like, as a team. Zac's as my producer in me. We were just going to ask God to show us where to go with this podcast, because you get to a place where you might plateau or you might. You might. You might not see a way out, or you might not see the next step, but he is a lamp into your feet, right? So that you can be a light into the world, y'all. We don't need to see the whole staircase. All we got to do is take the first step.

 

Kim:

We don't have to see five steps in front of us. All we got to take is that. That first step.

 

Jo Hardee:

And you know what the Bible says?

 

Kim:

What?

 

Jo Hardee:

He wants the very best for you.

 

Kim:

Yeah. Oh, that's.

 

Jo Hardee:

He wants the very best for me.

 

Kim:

Yes.

 

Jo Hardee:

And the reason a lot of times we don't have it is because we're rebellious in. In certain ways. We. I'm so rebellious, but we don't even recognize. It's what I'm telling you. And age has a lot to do with age. I'm so.

 

Kim:

I know the older you get, the more you kind of just surrender and you realize I'm such a hard headed.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, honey, when you get older like me, you realize, Lord, I got this whole life is out gone.

 

Kim:

I've only got good, 10 more good years, Mom. Okay, this is seriously. So do you believe in manifestation? Do you believe in speaking things?

 

Jo Hardee:

Oh, yes.

 

Kim:

I truly.

 

Jo Hardee:

I truly believe that what you put out, you get.

 

Kim:

You get back. Okay, so listen, so mom has been saying she has 10 good years left since she's been about 45. So every year she. Well, y'all, it's my. It's my 55th. I got about 10 good years left. Oh, it's 67. I got about 10 good years Left now.

 

Kim:

She's 77. Well, got about another 10 good. She gonna live be 727, 2000 years old. Because she. You keep putting that out there.

 

Jo Hardee:

When God gets through with me and my job here is done, I'm going home. That's just simple.

 

Kim:

And she told me she wants to be wrapped in a sheet buck naked.

 

Jo Hardee:

I want to come. I want to go out like I came in.

 

Kim:

What is that? Naked.

 

Jo Hardee:

I want to be wrapped in a sheet and put in a box. And. And that's it. Because my. I'm not gonna be there. No way. I'm gonna be gone now. The body will be there and it'll come back one day and we'll unite.

 

Kim:

We ain't getting into Revelation. We ain't getting into Revelation right now.

 

Jo Hardee:

We just. Right now, when I'm gone, I'm going to be with the Lord.

 

Kim:

Buck naked.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yep.

 

Kim:

You came in buck naked. You're going out.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, honey, we'll. He'll be dressed me in white.

 

Kim:

Okay? She loves white black. So tonight she brought her black.

 

Zac:

You two could just go for forever and ever. Like we're way past an hour. But this is.

 

Kim:

Oh, my God, I'm so funny.

 

Jo Hardee:

When you talk about the Lord, don't get. I mean, time is.

 

Kim:

Well, any questions or any comments? Look, y'all, anything. You always email us. Zac, do you have something to say? Because I just took it over what you were saying.

 

Zac:

Oh, no, we have tons of questions, but I think that I. Oh, someone just. This Linda just asked this question again, which is a great question. Do you say sounds. Do you say a silent prayer or have time with God before you do your shows on qvc?

 

Kim:

Oh, yeah. Half the time I'm arguing with him. I'm really quite different than Mom. I'M very verbal and I'm very ornery, you know, and I'm menopausal. So I think, you know, cut me some slack there. But mom will tell you I. I'm very demonstrative. I'll be like, what in the world, God, what are you doing? Like, I'm going through something right now with my business that I'm having a really hard time with.

 

Kim:

I'm gonna get emotional.

 

Jo Hardee:

Don't.

 

Kim:

And it's nobody's problem but my own. It's my own flesh, my own insecurity, my own, you know, and, you know, what's the word? What am I looking for? I. I'm struggling with being myself sometimes, although I'm very authentic. But the fact that I could sit here and tell you that makes. But I'm struggling with a situation with my business where I know in my heart, in my mind that this is just a distraction. It's. It's. It's to get me off of what I'm supposed to be.

 

Kim:

And I. But it's. It's just humanness. It. You know, and so for me, like it is at qvc, I'll be quite honest with you. And so for me, I'm always saying, lord, what, What. What will you have me do? And y'all. He never fails me.

 

Jo Hardee:

I started to say, look back.

 

Kim:

Oh, he never fails.

 

Jo Hardee:

Every time you get those rumblings in your soul.

 

Kim:

Insecurities, y'all. You know what I mean?

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah, But. But you have to know, I've watched you as you've been through all these years. When you get that rumbling inside, what do I always tell you?

 

Kim:

Something's coming.

 

Jo Hardee:

He's working on you.

 

Kim:

He's working on.

 

Jo Hardee:

He's preparing you for something. When you get that uncomfortable feeling inside.

 

Kim:

That'S for everybody, not just me. Listen to this.

 

Jo Hardee:

When you get that. When you get that certain feeling, insecurity, it. It's just. It's him moving.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

He's got something for you.

 

Kim:

Yeah. And let me. I'm going to tell y'all this, too.

 

Jo Hardee:

If you belong to him.

 

Kim:

My mom and father have always told us this. And, and you know, I always quote my father all the time, but my mom is the rock. She always says she's. You listen to him more than me. You love. And you know that's not true.

 

Jo Hardee:

I do.

 

Kim:

But dad has good one liners.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes.

 

Kim:

Okay. He's a son. He's funny and he has a lot of sound bites. So I remember one time, and you've always told me this, and you've lived this, but he always used to say to me, if you make it about other people, it'll be about you. And he's not saying it, like, from a selfish standpoint. He was just saying. And you've always said, it's not about me, me, me. It's about what you can add, what.

 

Jo Hardee:

You give out, what you do for others. And that's biblical.

 

Kim:

And the quicker you get that in your life, and that's not always the case for me. I'll be honest with you. Like, I'm still in that growth process, but I know it is a principle, it is a law. It is God's word.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, the Bible says, love your neighbors, you love yourself.

 

Kim:

Well, that's the last thing Jesus said before he ascended into heaven. He didn't say, yeah, Jesus didn't say, read your Bible. He didn't say, go to church. He didn't say, tithe your money. Although all those things are very. Are very biblical and very, very fruitful. But he said, love others as I have loved you. That's the last thing he said.

 

Kim:

And that is. Is what we all are longing for, is that connection.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know what, Kim? A lot of people don't love themselves.

 

Kim:

I don't all the time.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know what it says so that. So when he said, love yourself, love others like yourself, what does he tell you? You gotta love yourself. You gotta love yourself because God made you.

 

Kim:

That's right. Come on, now.

 

Jo Hardee:

You're special.

 

Kim:

Ain't nobody like you.

 

Jo Hardee:

No, you're one. One of a kind.

 

Kim:

But how do you get there, Mom? How do you get to the place where you love yourself and not in a.

 

Jo Hardee:

Not y'all, please.

 

Kim:

Not in the worldly way. We're not talking about me. We're talking about.

 

Jo Hardee:

Talking about pride.

 

Kim:

Not talking about pride. We're talking about that healthy, humble, when you really love yourself. Because I said to. I said to. I was speaking to some girls at the school, and I said, I am the wisest person you'll ever know.

 

Jo Hardee:

What?

 

Kim:

They're all like, oh, my gosh, she is so cocky. You know, everybody was judge, judge, judge. And I said, because I know. I don't know nothing.

 

Jo Hardee:

That was a trick question.

 

Kim:

But it was.

 

Jo Hardee:

But it's true.

 

Kim:

The truth.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yes, it is true.

 

Kim:

It's almost like you have to die to yourself to really love yourself.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, that's. That's biblical.

 

Kim:

Okay?

 

Jo Hardee:

That's biblical.

 

Kim:

I'm just one biblical babe.

 

Jo Hardee:

You have to die to yourself to be able to love God and love others.

 

Kim:

How do you? How do you. Is that I. It?

 

Jo Hardee:

Kim, all I can tell you, I've been living 78 years, and it's taken off.

 

Kim:

And you're not 78 yet. Now you'll be 78.

 

Jo Hardee:

A month and a half. I'll be 78. It has taken all that time to know what? To get to this feeling.

 

Kim:

What's the feeling?

 

Jo Hardee:

That I'm ready. Oh, Lord, that I'm ready.

 

Kim:

What does that mean?

 

Jo Hardee:

I'm not afraid. I've. I've experienced it. I know who God is. I know who Jesus is. I know where I'm going, and I'm okay with that. I'm looking forward to that one day. It takes a lifetime sometimes and.

 

Jo Hardee:

But we're not promised 78 years. We're not promised 65.

 

Kim:

Right? Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

Some of us are not promised hardly anything. Look at all the young. Yeah.

 

Kim:

So we got to get on with it.

 

Jo Hardee:

So every day counts. Every day counts, and we're all not at the same place. I had one elderly lady tell me that. She said, honey, you can't, you know, because when you're younger, you can judge, you know, I mean, I say, why can't people do. She said, honey, everybody's not where you are.

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

Spiritually, yeah. Or.

 

Kim:

Or anywhere. Financially, physically, anything. Family.

 

Jo Hardee:

That's right. She said, so you can't do that. You got to look at you, what you're doing for others.

 

Kim:

We got to wrap up because Zac's got to feed his children. But, you know, I. I want to say this thing. I want to say this thing because this might be a little controversial, and maybe it's a little cliffhanger, but one thing you've always taught me, too, is not to put your faith in men, not just mankind. Okay? Not just men. Men either, honey. I don't trust as far as I'm pickup, but I'm just saying that's the right kind. Sorry, sorry, sorry.

 

Kim:

But you always have instilled in me, back to where we started at this whole podcast of this. The sense of independence.

 

Jo Hardee:

Yeah.

 

Kim:

In. In. In who I am and a dependence on who he is. And I think that's the ultimate freedom, right, is being able to be in your own skin and know it's your own skin. And that's exactly how God made you and wants you to be. Now, look, I'm trying to lose £15. So this skin, I want to go. I mean, my.

 

Kim:

My circumference, I want to shrink, which I'm going to do it, Mom. I'm really praying about it. But I am going to go to Burger King when we leave here. But anyway, I really am wanting to talk to you about that because maybe we talk because like, you can't put your faith in your husband, honey. You can't put your faith in your life and children. No, mankind.

 

Jo Hardee:

No mankind. You can't put your faith in it because they're going to let you down every time. Because we're not perfect every time. But we will be one day. But now we're not right, Even though we are born again Christians, that we're no better than nobody else. God loves everybody.

 

Kim:

Everybody.

 

Jo Hardee:

We've just accepted him.

 

Kim:

Right?

 

Jo Hardee:

That's the only difference.

 

Kim:

Come on, Joe.

 

Jo Hardee:

That is the only difference that between unsaved and saved.

 

Kim:

We've chosen him.

 

Jo Hardee:

We've checked. We've made that choice.

 

Kim:

And so if you're, if you are tonight listening and you have questions and you want that supernatural faith, faith, please reach out to us and I will tell you, you know, I want to say. Oh, all right. One more thing.

 

Jo Hardee:

The world we live in today, okay. We have enemies, right?

 

Kim:

Yeah.

 

Jo Hardee:

There's people we don't like, we can't stand. The Bible says we have to love.

 

Kim:

Love them.

 

Jo Hardee:

Now that's going to be hard.

 

Kim:

That's hard.

 

Jo Hardee:

That is going to be very hard.

 

Kim:

Yes.

 

Jo Hardee:

But when you wake up and realize that person, I, like I just said, is not where you are. That person hasn't had the opportunities you've had. That's why they don't, you know, don't see the good.

 

Kim:

Right.

 

Jo Hardee:

Or they made poor or they've paid made poor. But God says we have to love them because we'll never win them to Christ by being mean and hateful.

 

Kim:

We have to date there's a lot of mean and hateful people out there.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know what?

 

Kim:

There's some dumb people too, honey.

 

Jo Hardee:

But you know what? You got to love them.

 

Kim:

We do.

 

Jo Hardee:

Well, that, that's don't hurt. That don't just hurt them.

 

Kim:

It hurts.

 

Jo Hardee:

It hurts you.

 

Kim:

It is. It is dying to that self is picking up that cross every day. But I just want to say to you, if you are in a place where you're asking questions or you're curious or you're ready to take that next step even in your faith journey, or if you're just even saying, kim, what's this all about? I want you to reach out to us at the POD and ask us questions and maybe mom and I'll come on and answer them because again, I wanted to have you on because We've lived the life experiences, and I can't do a podcast, and I can't. I can't hold this back anymore because it's such a gift. And I've seen it. And I've seen people changed and renewed and families healed and bodies healed and finances cup runneth over. I've seen it. And it only.

 

Kim:

All it takes is. Like you said, mom, that choice, it's just a simple choice.

 

Jo Hardee:

Like you said, it's so deep, but it's so simple.

 

Kim:

I love y'all so much, Mom. Thanks for coming on, Kim.

 

Jo Hardee:

It's been an honor to share my faith.

 

Kim:

Well, and you know what? You probably got 10 more good years. But if you don't.

 

Jo Hardee:

If I don't, I don't.

 

Kim:

You've done it.

 

Jo Hardee:

But I'm gonna work till he comes, until he takes it.

 

Kim:

And you gonna work our nerves.

 

Jo Hardee:

But, you know, we might get lucky. He might come.

 

Kim:

Mom, we're not. Bye, y'all. Let me shut her down. Bye. Love y'all.

 

Jo Hardee:

Love y'all.

 

Zac:

All right, I'm rolling the credits.

 

Kim:
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