Our Most Replayed Moments

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Zac:

Hey, everybody. Zac here, and welcome to the Kim Gravel Show. I, of course, am not Kim Gravel, but Kim gave me permission to take over the show today because I have something very special for you that I've been working on. As you know, I'm kind of a nerd, and I dug into all of the data behind the show, and I found the most rewatched, most popular segments that we've done on the show in the past few years. And I wanted to put. Put those all together and give them to you today. So today, this episode is gonna be amazing. It has some of the most thoughtful, most interesting, most rewatched segments that we've ever done on the show.

Zac:

We have interviews with David Venable, QVC host Shawn Killinger. We have comedian Leanne Morgan. We have Kim talking about her weight loss secrets. And we're gonna start with Kim spilling the tea about Kim of Queens. So take a watch.

Kim:

I love it.

Zac:

You ready? So these are all Kim of Queens, rapid fire. These are all from folks still online. Did you have a favorite mom?

Kim:

Oh, yeah, I did. Angie for her sassiness. Deb for her hey doll. She was so hilarious. She could always make me laugh, Lee, because she was so transparent. She would just be like, kim, I don't know what to do. I mean, they all were my favorites for different reasons. Yeah.

Zac:

Do you actually hate clogging?

Kim:

Yes. And let me say, I don't hate it. I hate. I just. I just. I don't hate it in the fact that it's not a valid, like, competition sport. I just don't think it should be a pageant talent.

Zac:

Okay. This one I gotta give credit to. N. Madonia wrote, we all know you loathed clogging as a talent, but what talent in today's pageants would you say is as bad as clogging?

Kim:

A spoken word.

Zac:

Spoken word.

Kim:

And recently, it's not my favorite, but. But I just saw. Recently. I'll have to trump that. Spoken worship is not my favorite. I. I just saw a girl play the Cups.

Zac:

Okay.

Kim:

She played Cups like, red solo cups, and that's a stretch for me. And she won Miss America with it. Just saying. She played the Cups on stage.

Zac:

The girl who won Miss America played the Cups.

Kim:

Yeah. It was many years ago. It was a couple of years ago. A few years back. Yeah. All right. I just wouldn't be a fan of that.

Zac:

Okay. We got a ton of questions about Alexis. Basically, they all boil down to was she really that much of a diva, her and her mom?

Kim:

Yeah. But she wasn't Rude. She wasn't rude. She was. I liked that kid. Tell you why I liked her. She had some kahunas. And see, let me tell you something.

Kim:

Now, she didn't have them bigger than me, okay? But she had them. And I like seeing that. I like seeing a young woman. We just had to get that molded a little bit. And her mom allowed it. That was the problem. All that was true. You know, you didn't see all the edits, so it looked amped up.

Kim:

You know, by the time they cut.

Zac:

The scene, reality TVs always like a much bigger version of always. Yeah, totally.

Kim:

Right? But it wasn't. That was not a fake person. She's not fake with being that way. But you didn't see all the warm fuzzies in her, right? All of us, you know, crying together and doing, you know. You know. So you saw an edited version, but yeah, that. She's a diva. But she.

Kim:

She. When we say diva, she was spoiled, but she wasn't. She was strong. And I liked that about her.

Zac:

Did she really get the modeling contract? That was another question. We got a lot.

Kim:

She did. Okay. She did. She got the modeling contract and she actually. All those songs she wrote herself, I mean, she was a talented young woman.

Zac:

She was talented.

Kim:

Still is. Yeah.

Zac:

She is super talented. Okay, what was your favorite episode?

Kim:

It'd have to be one episode. Addison.

Zac:

Okay, Addison.

Kim:

I'll tell you. I'll tell you why I'm gonna take full credit for it, if I may. I went down and trained some girls in Valdalia, Georgia, and Angie, actually, she was in Angie's dance class, and I just trained her an interview. And I thought, lord help, this child is gold. She's TV gold. And I came back and insisted they look at her and cast her. And so I love all the girls, but I just thought Addison was. It was the first.

Kim:

It was the kickoff, you know, it was the first episode and it was one of my faves.

Zac:

Maddy Dalton, 9, asked, Was Addison's accent real?

Kim:

For sure, 100,000%. Go follow her on social media. She's still talking just like that.

Zac:

I was gonna say, how do you fake that? Like, how do you get an 11 year old or whatever to fake that? That would be next level.

Kim:

Addison is a person who truly just is who she is. And you gotta love that.

Zac:

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So were there any pranks done on set?

Kim:

Oh, my gosh, yes. Tons. Tons. I'm a big prankster. So one time I threw all their clothes on the floor and said that we had been robbed. I mean, like, I always try to do stuff that get people's reaction. Yeah. I'm a big prankster, so there was many, many pranks on set.

Zac:

Okay, couple more. What was the most shocking thing you learned about reality TV from being on it?

Kim:

It's a lot of hard work.

Zac:

Yeah.

Kim:

And I don't know if it's even worth it. I mean, without the message. I mean, it's not worth the money, and it's the mess. If the message wasn't there for me, I probably would never do that again.

Zac:

Yeah, it's hard work. It is. Whose transformation meant the most to you?

Kim:

Oh, God, there was so many. Adiya.

Zac:

Oh, Adiya was good.

Kim:

Alexis was one of my favorites. Addison, of course.

Zac:

Yeah.

Kim:

Gracie, my little soccer player. And all for different reasons. You know, I loved ej, my little bookworm. She was so confident. I love seeing that. I liked seeing the transformations where there weren't typical Padgett girls.

Zac:

I was gonna say, yeah, those were so special. Like, you took these girls that would say would never, you know, didn't seem like they fit the mold and.

Kim:

Yeah, but the mold is made to be broken. Every mold out there is made to be broken. And I. I didn't fit the mold either. And so for me, that has always been my heart is to see people really achieve it, being themselves. So breaking the mold is this boy that don't challenge me, because I love the challenge.

Zac:

Okay, two more. Was the drama with Victoria Harris real?

Kim:

No.

Zac:

Okay.

Kim:

I will tell you. It was with Allisyn because Allisyn's a very competitive person. I am too. But you got to have competition to begin with. I can't. You know, it's got to be a fair fight for me to be real competitive with another person. But Victoria's an amazing young woman, and she was a great coach herself. Allisyn was all in with it, and Victoria was all in with it.

Kim:

But at the end of the day, you know, you have to compete with yourself. So for me, it was not real. For me, I was like, this is not even a fair fight, but it's fun.

Zac:

It was fun for the show, and it worked.

Kim:

But I liked her as a person. I loved her as a person. Like, I didn't. I mean, she was a little shady. Tricky Vicky. They called her Tricky Vicky. She was a little shady, but Alison was too. So I let Alison deal with that, because I'm like, babe, I done been there and done this, got the crown, bought the T shirt, you know, and.

Zac:

When we were shooting the behind the scenes stuff, like, you Know, a couple weeks ago, Allisyn was, like, getting. Her feathers were getting ruffled. She was watching those scenes, and she was, like, getting hot, and I was like, okay, this is happening. What's gonna happen?

Kim:

Well, let me just tell you something. If you come for my girls, you know, when I say you mess with the bull, you gonna get the horns. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's how I feel. Don't mess with the bull, then you ain't gonna have to get, you know, mess. You don't have to get the horns. That's how I say. Like with Vicky, I was like, all right, look, girl, I'm older and bigger than you, okay? My daddy always used to say, the bigger the butt cheeks, the sweeter the meat. That's right.

Kim:

I'm sweet until I'm not.

Zac:

Sorry. I love you so much. Okay, last one. And we're gonna go deep a little bit with this one.

Kim:

This.

Zac:

That emilygirl22 wrote. What called you to do the show. I'm so glad you made the show, of course, but inner motivation.

Kim:

I want to see every woman. I say this all the time. I'm a girl's girl. I love the dudes, too. I have three men I live with, okay? But let's just set them aside, okay? I want to see every woman. I don't care. Her age, her status, her race, her anything. I don't care about any of that.

Kim:

Rise to their full potential. And you know why? Because I had to fight to do that for myself. Yeah, I had a great mom and dad, very supportive. But even my own mother said, you'll never win Miss George with that short hair, because everything in life conspires to get you to not believe in you. And look, I'm no savior. I know the savior, but I'm not a savior. And I'm not a perfect person. And I fought tooth and nail to have this show remain to the integrity of what the intent was.

Kim:

And it was to see every young girl when she's looking at that or watching the show. And every mama. Every. Every woman looking at that going, you know what? I'm beautiful just as I am. Could I be better? Can I work a little harder? Will I ever want a pageant? Maybe? Yes. No. Whatever. But I can be the best me.

Kim:

I can be. And I can believe in what God created me to be. And that was my motivation. And you know what I'm going to say to everybody right now, because the show is now airing on QVC+. Kim of Queens. And then stay tuned for behind the Queens. At the end of the show, I'm going to say this. Yeah, I'm a toot my own horn.

Kim:

Toot, toot. And we did our job because the show is still here and it's still motivating and still encouraging people today. So you know what? Toot too. What if someone's listening right now, doesn't feel great about themselves or doesn't know how to start or get motivated, what advice do you have for them?

David Venable:

I always say that you didn't gain weight overnight. You're not going to lose it overnight. We don't cross the mountain in a single bound unless we're Superman, Right? So every journey begins with one step. You just have to decide you're going to do things differently. It's a journey. It's a marathon, not a sprint. So what we're doing is we're finding out things about ourselves day by day by day. You know, I was famous for saying in the early going that I had hungrier days than others.

David Venable:

Right. And, Ken, I've heard you say many times you love to eat. So do I. I love to eat. It's one of those things. But you know what? It's about eating differently and about eating different.

Kim:

Right? It is.

David Venable:

And then also partnering with your doctor because, you know, when you go low carb and low sugar, that means you can have higher fat unless your cholesterol is in trouble. And you need. That's why it's important to have the blood done every three months. Right.

Kim:

But you know what, David, I'm hearing you talk about, you're saying being your partner with your daughter, you're really saying, get educated. You know, take care of your own body. You know, I think. I think it's the only body we got. Right? I mean, this is it. I mean, this is all we have. And we need to not just trust what we've always done. We need to learn for ourselves.

Kim:

To me, that's the biggest takeaway. I mean, you're so educated on all this.

David Venable:

Well, and it took time. I had to educate myself. I wanted my doctor to give me all the answers. And he said, whole wheat pasta is not bad if you put a lot of sauce on it, is what he said to me. Hand up. That's exactly what he said to me. And I thought to myself, well, that much is true, but I need a lot more. He said, I want you to.

David Venable:

I want you to get busy on the Internet. So I did, and I learned a lot. And what I always tell the customers is what has worked for me may not work for you. It's important for you to listen to your own body. Everyone's journey will be unique. But I can tell you this. Every journey has to start, and the journey never ends. And I always say to the customers, even though I'm at my goal weight, I'm spending every day maintaining it.

David Venable:

I know what's important. I know what I can eat, what I can't eat. Just recently, I went with our buyers to a trip to Le Cresset's U.S. headquarters in Charleston, South Carolina. And after our meeting, they took us to a local eatery in Charleston that is known for fried chicken. Now, I haven't had fried chicken in over a year and a half. And the whole table, with fear and trembling, looks at me and says, david, what are you gonna order? And I'm like, I'm in Rome. I'm going to order the fried chicken.

David Venable:

Right?

Kim:

Fried chicken, yeah.

David Venable:

So it was the first piece of fried chicken I'd had in a year and a half. And I thought, you know what? This will be okay. I'll have one piece of fried chicken, and that'll be fine. Well, I devoured it because it was the first one I'd had in a year and a half.

Kim:

Sucking the bone off the marrow. Sucking the marrow out of the bone. Yeah.

David Venable:

The waitress came up and said, I can't take any credit for the bone marrow. And so. But, you know, I finished it, and I thought, well, yeah, it tasted good going down, but now I don't feel so great, you know?

Kim:

Right, right, right, right, right.

David Venable:

And it just reinforced what I already knew. What I can eat is what I can eat. What I can't eat anymore, I should avoid. And so, you know, people always say to me, well, don't you have cheat days? And I'm like, well, I try. And when I do, my body kind of fights back. And so it's good motivation not to have a cheat day. My doctor says, well, that's good motivation, isn't it? I was like, not exactly what I wanted to hear you say.

Kim:

What's your energy level like, David? I mean. I mean, tell me, like, the. Cause you are working. You are the hardest working gentleman in show business. Oh, you're smart. I mean, you're on all the time, and you're doing four to five hour stints when you're on live tv. And that, y' all, is no joke. I mean, the stamina.

Kim:

How has that changed for you?

David Venable:

It has changed tremendously. I've got newfound energy for product presentations, you know, even management has said to me, you seem like a different person because there's so much energy, there's so much enthusiasm. You know, when I would have a four hour shift, I would groan to myself and think, oh, my word, how am I gonna make it through this? And of course, never saying that on the air, but thinking that. Right?

Kim:

But it's the feeling. Your body. Yeah.

David Venable:

Because your body is like, oh, there's no way you're gonna do four hours. And now I'm like, four hours done. It's over. Yeah, it's really pretty amazing. I talk about the Dyson hidden dirt demo and you know, that's where we vacuum a carpet that looks clean to the naked eye. Then we drop down on one knee and we open up the contents of the dustbin on a clean piece of paper.

Kim:

Right? Right.

David Venable:

Getting down wasn't such a problem when I was heavy, but getting up was really tough. I mean, climbing my big heavy behind off the floor, they had to drop to a product shot. And I would have to climb up and moan and groan.

Kim:

Oh, Lord.

David Venable:

Now I just pop down and pop up. It's great.

Kim:

You know, it's great.

David Venable:

But it's live tv, right? And the customers began to see that and began to understand that. And they're like, now, David, you're still doing food shows. Isn't that torture? And I'm like, everything in moderation, including moderation. Right? You don't, you don't. When I used to sell chicken and dumplings, I would hope that Lauren Edmonds would talk a lot so I could house the whole bowl. Now I have one bite and I put it down. I know what it tastes like. I know how good it is.

David Venable:

I know. I wanna.

Kim:

Okay, David, stop. You can't just go past that. Everything in moderation, including moderation. What do you mean by that? I mean, that is like, that's the whole tag of this show.

Zac:

I'm writing that down.

Kim:

What do you mean by that? That is so insane. You gotta explain that.

David Venable:

Well, what that means to me is, you know, everything you do, you do in moderation. And then when you feel like you're overdoing the moderation, remember that moderation needs to be in moderation too, Right?

Kim:

Correct.

David Venable:

Because I think what happens is we think, well, we get down on ourselves, right? And we're like, I'm way too heavy and I'm just. And you know, my, my weight is contagious. I need to do something about this. And I'm not good and I'm not the good person that I think I am. Because I'm too heavy. No, David is still David. David was just heavier than David ought to be. And his body was telling him in loud voices, but be better, because you can be better.

Kim:

Come on.

David Venable:

Yeah. And so it's just a matter of making up your mind that you're going to do it. But it's a journey. It's a one step a day kind of thing. I'm aware of everything. I eat now. I listen to my body. If my body likes it, great.

David Venable:

My body doesn't like it.

Kim:

I love that I don't do it again.

David Venable:

You know, there are a lot of things that I tried that I liked a lot. Some things I tried that I didn't like at all. And I thought, well, this much was a mistake. Kind of like Brussels sprouts. But it's one of those situations where you just get into a. You get into a situation where you're like, I need to make a change. I know I can be better. I want to be my best self.

David Venable:

And I'm not getting any younger. I'll be 59 in November of this year.

Kim:

David, you do not look 59.

David Venable:

Well, I don't know what 59 is supposed to look like, but I know I felt 59.

Kim:

Well, it ain't you. It's not what you look like, I can tell you that.

David Venable:

People always say to me, you just look so healthy. Are you happy? I'm. You look happier than I've been in a long time. Healthier than I've been.

Kim:

I would say not happy. I would say pure joy. It is such a pleasure to watch you work on qvc. Because it's not work, first of all. You know, I mean, we call it work just because that's what your job is, what your career is. But watching you on. On QVC is. Is such a pleasure.

Kim:

It's such an inspiration to me because you're doing exactly what you're called to do. And now the way you look and feel is just that extra. It's even extra. Like it's given you even more motivation and even more talent. Success and giftings, you know what I'm saying? They're just on display, bigger and better.

David Venable:

But it should be joyful, right? Whatever we're doing should be joyful. There's an old saying that says if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. And I know that that's not a new phrase, but it's a truthful one.

Kim:

But it's a real one.

David Venable:

It's a Truthful one. Yeah, it's a good one. And, you know, your. And my good friend Jane Tracy's mother used to say, sooner or later, everyone gets on the right shelf. Everyone gets on their right shelf.

Kim:

Come with it, right?

David Venable:

And so I couldn't do what you do. You probably couldn't do what I do. And the whole line, so are you.

Kim:

On the right shelf?

David Venable:

I'm on the right shelf. I'm right where I belong. I will have been with QVC this December, 30 years. And I always knew that.

Kim:

Come on.

David Venable:

I always knew QVC would be a big part of my life. I never knew that it would be my whole career.

Kim:

When you decide and then you take massive action towards the things that you want in your life, not the things that you don't want. We're focusing on what we don't want and what we're struggling with. Like, it is that important. It's. It's not.

Zac:

You're so right.

Kim:

Focus on what you do want. And then your body, your environment, everything about it will catch up. So I have a friend, she's my facialist. Her name is Kelly. And I went in and saw her yesterday, and she's lost £50 since May. And. And she has a lot to lose. So she has about another 50 to go.

Zac:

Okay.

Kim:

And we were talking about this, and I said, well, Kelly, what made you lose the weight? She said, I don't. I don't know. And she says, but look. And she pulls up a picture of herself that she did of herself in AI. And she said, I put in AI a picture of me, and then what I would look like If I lost 100 pounds. And she said, I got this picture.

Zac:

Oh, my gosh. And she could see it.

Kim:

I said, well, when did you do that? She goes, may. I said, well, what are you doing? What's your program to lose weight? She goes, I really don't have a program. She said, I just. She goes, I saw that picture. I said, oh, my God, I want to look like that. She made the decision to look at what she wanted to look like, and then her body now is catching up. Y' all. You don't believe me.

Kim:

Y' all sitting at the judging me, you don't believe a word I said. But I'm telling you right now, that is the hundred percent gospel truth. I promise you that's exactly what happened. We sat there over an hour and talked about that. And she was like, kim, that is so trusted, because what I said, so what has take? She's been trying to lose this weight for over 10 years. Yeah, because she's 37. Because she said, I want my 40s to be my best years.

Zac:

Yeah.

Kim:

She has lost 50 pounds since April to June. That's how many. April, May, June, three and a half months. She's lost £50 and she's been trying to do the same. £50. Now look, this can apply to any part of your life. And this is not woo woo juju. Whatever this.

Kim:

Your mind is so powerful.

Zac:

Thoughts are things.

Kim:

Your body is powerful too, but it will follow the mind. That's why I tell my kids, don't be watching trash. Don't be watching trashy movies and listening to trashy people. Don't be doing that because your body will follow what? The mind is programmed, and I have been programmed and self programmed for years to be in a struggle with £37. And y' all, it's a limiting belief system because what happens is we break promises to ourselves. We don't trust ourselves. Oh God. Because we break promises to ourselves, you know, and ultimately we don't trust God.

Kim:

But I just want to speak to what you can control. And if ever, say, you say, I'm going to get up and I'm going to work out and I'm going to exercise and you make that promise to yourself and then you don't follow through. Then you break that promise to yourself. And so you don't trust yourself. What I'm talking about that day I made a decision. I said, that's it. I'm tired. I broke the cycle of not trusting myself.

Zac:

Yes.

Kim:

And I took action to what I want. And I, and y' all, I was like, you know what? I'm going to make my bed today. And I made my bed. And then I built trust in myself. And then I said, you know what? I'm going to read a chapter of a book that's been sitting there. I've been trying to read the book for like two years. How many of y' all have done that? Is anybody done? Like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do this.

Kim:

I'm gonna do it every day.

Zac:

I have a book on my counter on my bedside table right now. I'm on chapter two. I like it. I just never have the time.

Kim:

But this is the thing. Or you just don't make the time.

Zac:

Yeah, exactly.

Kim:

Now you said I don't have any time.

Zac:

Well, then I'm on TikTok 90 minutes. Last night I started watching Hannah Dasher and then I like off to the Races.

Kim:

Do you see what I'M saying. Do you see what I'm saying? What I'm saying to you is there's not good or bad with that. I mean, do fill your time with what you want to, but take massive action towards things that you actually want to do, and everything else will catch up. People say to me, kim, how did you become such an entrepreneur? I don't really know. I just decided. I never forget it. I woke up and said, you know, I'm gonna start this club, and that's what we gonna do. I had no idea how to do it, who to do it with, when I was gonna do it, how I was gonna pay for it, how I was gonna get into qvc, how I'm gonna do.

Kim:

I had no idea. Y' all think it's methodical thought? No. I just decided and everything. Caught up with that. I met the right manufacturer. I met the wrong manufacturer. You know, everything worked. I'm telling you.

Kim:

Beau sitting the bench and looking and saying to himself, I'm deciding not to do this. And he was put in. Put me in, coach. And that he understood. Not that I'm playing or not playing basketball, because God knows I can't wait. The basketball is finally over. But he learned how he can decide because. Let's read the quote again.

Kim:

Let's read the quote again.

Zac:

Read it, read it.

Kim:

Decisions decide destiny. There is no action without decision today. What decision have you not been making to get out of life what you want? I get so many emails, I've had so many texts. I mean, so many direct messages on Instagram and everything. Kim, how have you lost the weight? How have you lost the weight? And I felt like, oh, my gosh, am I just going to be a jerk and just text back and go, I just decided to.

Zac:

Right?

Kim:

It's like, can you imagine? Like, get real, Kim.

Zac:

Yeah, right. Well, I mean, well, we're told that it's hard. We're told that it's hard. There's so many things in life that we're told, oh, it's really hard to make money. It's really hard to be successful. It's really hard to lose the weight. It's really hard to insert thing.

Kim:

It's not. It just requires a decision and then to take action. Because what's happening when you're not losing the weight, when you're talking about it, when you're writing it down, when you're always. It's the perpetual hamster wheel in your mind that is work.

Zac:

Here we go.

Kim:

Leanne Morgan. Harmony's everything. Honey, we spare no expense here, Leanne. None.

Leanne Morgan:

Oh, my gosh. Well, I've never had anything like that. Thank you, girl.

Kim:

I love you so much. Okay, well, I'm so glad you're here, because this is podcast is going everywhere, and I want everyone to know about you and just experience you. Girl, what in the world? Is God good or what? Do we need to just talk about that first?

Leanne Morgan:

I've done this for 20 something years, and, you know, barely nobody cared. I would get television deals, but they wouldn't make it. But I, you know, things were really not great, right? And then this to happen to me at 57, after I've raised my children. Yeah, I know that was God's timing, but can.

Kim:

Can we talk about that a little bit? Because I know you're not shy about your faith, and, you know, I'm not about mine, but there. There's something about his timing that A is unpredictable and B is bigger than we ever dreamed. Would you say? Can you relate to that?

Leanne Morgan:

I can, because I. I knew this. I felt this would happen to me when I was a child, like 9 or 10 years old. I feel like God revealed it to me.

Kim:

I was gonna say, did you know that was your calling?

Leanne Morgan:

I did. Well, I thought I would think it. And then I'd think, am I crazy? Nobody else in Adams, Tennessee, is talking about being a movie star. Is it just me? Am I alone? Then I got to thinking. As I got older, I thought, am I like one of those kids on American Idol that think they can sing? You know? And I thought, maybe I'm crazy. And then. But I feel like God always revealed it to me and just wait. Just wait.

Leanne Morgan:

And through bad times and when nothing was happening and bad things were happening, and I would say, God, why? What? What is this? What? And he would speak to me and say, just hold on. Trust me, just hold on. And it would always be about my. About this happening for me. It was crazy. And then now they tell me something wonderful every day. Or I see some darling little woman in the lobby in Des Moines, Iowa, and she tells me. Holds on to me, and says, you got me through chemo.

Kim:

Oh, wow.

Leanne Morgan:

You know, I just. I don't know. It's sweeter and more wonderful than anything I could have ever imagined. And I know God is with me, and I know I don't. I go, I know he uses all of us, and this is what he put me here for. I guess I hope I can do it into the glory of God.

Kim:

You are doing it, honey. You hope you can. In the Name of Jesus. No, I'm just saying it's like that. You are doing it. You are doing it. That's what I'm saying. And when.

Kim:

While you're doing it. And this is the beauty of the mystery of who God is. And when he calls you to do something, a. I say it, too. You can trace it back to when you were young. I tell everybody, leanne, you know what you're made to do when you're young. Now life beats you up, and we forget about it, and we. The whole world is conspiring to rob us from it.

Kim:

The entire. But he. It's never too late, is it? It's never too late. He's right on time, and there's no plan B. Right?

Leanne Morgan:

And. And that's why I named the second tour the Just Getting Started Tour. Because I feel like I'm just getting started at 57. And I want women and men to know it's never too late.

Kim:

It's not too late. It's not. Leanne. And why do you think that is? Like, why do you think? Because I was gonna say to you, too. You know, we'll probably talk offline, but let's talk right here. Cause we're here. But the beautiful thing about God, too, is that when he gives it to you, he don't just give it to you, he gives it through you to other people as well. And to me, that's what you're doing.

Kim:

Like how you say that little woman in Iowa, Kevin said, you got me through chemo. And then how you're inspiring women and men that are in this age of their life, this time of their life, the season, to get out and do what your dreams and goals are. Isn't that the truth, though? He's. He's so omniscient. Omnipotent, whatever that word is. He's so that.

Leanne Morgan:

Yes. And just. Yes. All of that. You are so smart and you can articulate well that things got that blubber over. But yes, he is so big and carries us in the palm of his hand. And he knows what? Like, the things. You know, I've shot a movie with Reese Witherspoon and Will Ferrell.

Kim:

That was my next question.

Leanne Morgan:

And that came out of nowhere. Will, I know where that was. That was a God thing. And I. And, yeah, things that are just so much bigger and then they're. The right timing. And the people he put in my life and put in my path, that believed in me and lifted me up. I mean, I could go back and pinpoint that from the Time I was.

Shawn Killinger:

Nine years old, my whole career, I wanted for so much, so badly. And I hustled and tried so hard.

Kim:

What do you mean? Explain that. Cause you're talking to a lot of people right now that can.

Shawn Killinger:

Like, so this.

David Venable:

This.

Shawn Killinger:

This example probably will resonate with, like, 1.2% of the population because it involves an agent, but there's a bigger.

Kim:

No, no, no. The. The. The. The wanting.

Shawn Killinger:

Okay, fine. So I wanted. I knew I had this gift inside me to talk and connect and to storytell, but I. I didn't know how to find a platform for it. Because local news wasn't it, right?

Kim:

No.

Shawn Killinger:

And so I was desperate to find that outlet because it's like a burning passion inside me to tell and to write and to. And to connect with people. And so. So I just had. I mean, I was relentless in trying to bang down so many doors. I mean, the stories I could tell you of the ridiculous antics I went to to get meetings or whatever, or to get someone's attention or whatever, which I love. That hustle. That hustle is amazing.

Shawn Killinger:

That hustle makes for great stories. One time, which I was. I think I was just a real. Without meaning to be, like, a real pain in the ass for a lot of people, including this talent agent, because I was just a lot. I was just a lot. You know, like, you just. The self awareness wasn't there yet, and I wanted it too much that, like, the proverbial, like, the salivation was coming down all the time, like. And he said to me one day, he goes, you know, Shawn, the only person standing in your way is you.

Shawn Killinger:

And I was like, riddle me this. Like, what is this weird. What are you talking in these, like, platitudes? What does that mean? I'm standing in my way? And of course, fast forward, now I get it, you know, So I do think there's. God brings you opportunities and blessings when it's your time. And sometimes it's your time, not when you're at your hungriest, but when you've been able to find yourself and surrender and frankly, just say, if it doesn't happen, I'm still great. And if it does, I'm so grateful. And that's what I mean by humbled. Because, like, I just can't believe when.

Shawn Killinger:

When they called me to do that Vogue photo shoot, I was like, no way.

Kim:

No, is it? But I mean that. But that's how God works, Shawn. I mean, I don't. I'm serious. Like, I. He. All. I tell my children, I tell the kids I mentor, I try to get this through the thick skull of young people that all he needs is a willing vessel.

Kim:

He doesn't need our talent. He doesn't need our razum a daz. He doesn't need, you know, our youth. He doesn't need any of that. There is no expiration date on a calling or a path that God has for you. He needs willingness. And like you said, you have to get to a place where you understand you're not in control. Right.

Kim:

It's not that God doesn't wanna give you all the beautiful, great things like the Vogue cover or the, you know, New York Times Square. What he wants to give us all those things that will satisfy that hunger. But we have to be willing to wait or, I don't know, collaborate or go down a path that seems less than for a moment until he can get us to where we mentally and emotionally and spiritually can handle it. Don't you think?

Shawn Killinger:

I totally do. Because if any of this stuff came to me 10 or 20 years ago, I would be a freaking hot mess. Awful. Terrible. It would have been a disaster. Like, implosion central. Just terrible. I just.

Shawn Killinger:

It just. I feel like, yes, everything you just said. Because the greatest lessons I have ever learned in my life have come from pain, not pleasure.

Kim:

Yes. Come on.

Shawn Killinger:

And have come from, like, guttural awfulness on my knees. Like, feel like I'm dying spiritually, emotionally, and everything else.

Kim:

Not.

Shawn Killinger:

Oh, my life is so great. I'm just. I just got another great thing that I wanted. And this is all so wonderful. No. So I feel like then when you trod through that wilderness of darkness and you really find your way through to, like, a light between the trees, then you're so grateful for the fact that there is even a light at all that you're. Then you're kind of ready in a way like you weren't before because you would have just taken it for granted. So, I don't know.

Kim:

You know? And Shawn, like. I mean, you're doing, like. You have your own line. You have your own. Which I have bought several. I bought your whole velvet pants and jacket last year. Let's go. I bought the pink.

Kim:

It's what I'm wearing in my. In my new headshot. I love it. You know what I'm saying? Like, all of those things. I mean, like, look at what you're doing now. Speak to that. Because there's a lot of women, you know, that watch this and listen to this and watch you on qvc and they Say, yeah, but that's Shawn. I could never do anything like that.

Kim:

That they're sitting on a book, or they're sitting on a business, or they're sitting on a ministry, or fill in the blank, whatever. There's a lot of you listening right now that are many Shawn's and many Kims and many Zacs. People who want to be doing what is in their soul to do. Shawn, what would you say to that person?

Shawn Killinger:

I feel so passionately, number one, that. Cause I do feel like a lot of my life, I was. What I'm about to tell you, which is I was waiting for the doorbell of opportunity to ring, and then I was like, foaming at the mouth to answer it. And like a. You can't do that. Like, if you're waiting for God to deliver you your perfect mate and you're just gonna bump into him or her, like, in the produce aisle, it's probably not gonna happen, right? Like, you have to get online or you have to start swiping, or you have to

Shawn Killinger:

put yourself out there on Tuesday nights when normally you're like, no, I don't want to go, but they invited me to. You have to. So you have to be far more intentional and active in the pursuit of whatever the dream or the hope or the vision is. Because if you're just waiting for, like, the world to plop it on your doorstep or to give you a sign that it's not happening, it's not going to happen that way. And then the second thing is, is that I just feel so strongly that everybody has something inside of them that is like a. Like a burning ember, like a fire of something that God placed in them or that they're great at or a giftedness that they have.

Kim:

Yes.

Shawn Killinger:

And so I just feel like you. You have to. For your own kind of development, right? Like your own personal development, like, you have to start taking baby steps towards. Towards the bigger fire, right? And so it doesn't have to be a grand gesture. It doesn't have to. Like, the, you know, the novel that you want to write is not, you know, it starts with one page. Like, maybe just type one word. Maybe just sketch down, like, an idea.

Shawn Killinger:

I mean, look at J.K. rowling. Like, you know, on napkins with a baby pram next to her in a coffee shop. Poor and like, you know, Gryffindor. Oh, that's crazy. Like, it starts somewhere and then suddenly, you know, when I think when you start taking a few steps towards God, then he's like, okay, okay, now she's moving. Now she's moving. And then he takes a few steps towards you, and he'll crack the door open a little bit more, and then you crack it a little bit.

Shawn Killinger:

And then he crack. And then. And then next thing you know, it's like, oh, you know what I mean?

Kim:

Well, and the thing about. The thing about what you just said, which is so profound, is that when you start moving in the direction that God wants you to do, he'll run to you like. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's not. He's sitting there going, okay, how many steps are you gonna take? He's just like, let's go. She's taking a few steps. I'm on it. 

Kim:

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